Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
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TheRhino ( 212 )
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Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
I've been watching eBay for ages, waiting to land one of the UK White Dwarf subscription Marine Veterans from 08.
I found one today, and out of curiosity checked the seller's other auctions. Scads of rare and out-of-production metal models. I took a gander at the seller's auctionhistory, and they have sold no less than FIVE of these models, as well as multiples of the Army Box Veteran, multiple copies of Sergeant Centurius, and large lots of the old "Sexy" Daemonettes.
None of the auctions include packaging, and every auction uses the exact same photo.
I'm nearly convinced the guy is a counterfeiter. I'd love to get my hands on one of the models to inspect it, but don't have the cash to waste.
Any way to raise a flag on this person, or would you just let it pass?
I found one today, and out of curiosity checked the seller's other auctions. Scads of rare and out-of-production metal models. I took a gander at the seller's auctionhistory, and they have sold no less than FIVE of these models, as well as multiples of the Army Box Veteran, multiple copies of Sergeant Centurius, and large lots of the old "Sexy" Daemonettes.
None of the auctions include packaging, and every auction uses the exact same photo.
I'm nearly convinced the guy is a counterfeiter. I'd love to get my hands on one of the models to inspect it, but don't have the cash to waste.
Any way to raise a flag on this person, or would you just let it pass?
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Re: Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
Report him to ebay and/or GW.
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Re: Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
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I'd report them to GW & let GW decide whether or not they want to deal with it.
Feebay isn't going to do anything without proof.
Eric
I'd report them to GW & let GW decide whether or not they want to deal with it.
Feebay isn't going to do anything without proof.
Eric
Lower rating? You ship first.
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I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
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Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell
Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.
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TheRhino ( 212 )
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Re: Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
I did some digging on GW's site, and for others' reference, the email for reporting counterfeiters is:
infringement@games-workshop.co.uk
Attempting to email legal@games-workshop.co.uk results in an auto-response pointing you there. Save a step
infringement@games-workshop.co.uk
Attempting to email legal@games-workshop.co.uk results in an auto-response pointing you there. Save a step
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TheRhino ( 212 )
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Re: Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
GW actually got back to me on this, and asked for all the info I had available so they could look into it.
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Re: Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
Kinda figured they would. They don't take people pilfering money from them very lightly.
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Re: Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
I got a recast of centurious in trade once.
I noticed that he was awful thin looking, but I just thought I got a bad cast.
I found out later that he was probably a recast after getting one NIB to compare it to.
I noticed that he was awful thin looking, but I just thought I got a bad cast.
I found out later that he was probably a recast after getting one NIB to compare it to.
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Studded Shoulder Pads: 900+/290+
Mk6 Helmeted Heads: 800+/600+
It's Bartertown, if you don't like my offer, please haggle with me.
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Studded Shoulder Pads: 900+/290+
Mk6 Helmeted Heads: 800+/600+
It's Bartertown, if you don't like my offer, please haggle with me.
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TheRhino ( 212 )
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Re: Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
Wow, this guy is just relentless. Another large batch of counterfeits up this week:
http://shop.ebay.com/droste1971/m.html? ... m=&_ipg=25
He sells that set of Queen Alarielle weeky, and it always tops $100.
http://shop.ebay.com/droste1971/m.html? ... m=&_ipg=25
He sells that set of Queen Alarielle weeky, and it always tops $100.
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TheRhino ( 212 )
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Re: Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
lol, he's also been buying up empty ForgeWorld baggies, look like he's not just sticking with pewter, he's expanding into fake FW product as well.
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Re: Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
Aside from the fact that he's selling the same items repeatedly, do you have proof that he's a recaster?
Eric
Eric
Lower rating? You ship first.
Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell
Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.
Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell
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- YoungWolf777 ( 1170 )
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Re: Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
Nobody has that many rare items to sell, let alone on a weekly basis. 
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TheRhino ( 212 )
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Re: Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
I've repeatedly failed to make the top bids on any of the samples. As Dan said, there's no possible way he's somehow stored up 5+ copies of some of these models to sell. He's up to 8+ of several of the limited Marine models.
/shrug.
/shrug.
Re: Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
I posted a similar article a few months ago about someone who seemed to have an unlimited supply of Malifaux, ltd ed Lord Chompy bits. Selling them for $180 a piece. I agree that no one can have that many ltd eds.
Always looking for well sculpted Female miniatures.
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MagickalMemories ( 832 )
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Re: Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
Guys.
You're talking about what's not possible, but listing what isn't LIKELY.
Sure, it's not LIKELY that he has all of those, like he says he does. It IS possible, though.
I know a guy who had a 2 layer rifle case full of miniatures. You know what miniatures it was full of? ONE POSE... one exact specific pose... of a camel. The same model. It filled a 2 layer rifle case. The models were all in there close together, too.
That's just ONE of the scores of rifle cases he had.
It's distinctly possible this guy is ditching a hoarded collection.
Do I think it's likely? No.
Do I think he's recasting? Probably.
You can't go citing opinions as facts, though.
I mean... you CAN... LOL... But, you shouldn't.
Eric
You're talking about what's not possible, but listing what isn't LIKELY.
Sure, it's not LIKELY that he has all of those, like he says he does. It IS possible, though.
I know a guy who had a 2 layer rifle case full of miniatures. You know what miniatures it was full of? ONE POSE... one exact specific pose... of a camel. The same model. It filled a 2 layer rifle case. The models were all in there close together, too.
That's just ONE of the scores of rifle cases he had.
It's distinctly possible this guy is ditching a hoarded collection.
Do I think it's likely? No.
Do I think he's recasting? Probably.
You can't go citing opinions as facts, though.
I mean... you CAN... LOL... But, you shouldn't.
Eric
Lower rating? You ship first.
Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell
Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.
Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell
Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.
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Re: Spotting a potential counterfeiter...
Forgeworld was selling one ltd edition marine per customer at Adepticon, but allowing people to place orders for a maximum of 10. The guy in line behind me ordered 10 and had his wife fill out an order for an additional 10. If you had some friends along, you could have potentially bought even more...
Not saying that's the case here but it's food for thought.
Not saying that's the case here but it's food for thought.
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