GS and Casting

SteveBerenyi · Post by **SteveBerenyi** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:13 pm

where can i got a good ammount of Greenstuff for Cheap?
also where can i get casting tools?
Thanks/

GMMStudios · Post by **GMMStudios** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:17 pm

About the cheapest you are going to find is the warstore 12.99 pack. Its rather large. Still not cheap if you are doing large scale stuff though.

I'd be curious about this as well. I was thinking of casting bases for my guard army, but thats 140, and GS is just too expensive to do it. I need to read up on resin casting.

SteveBerenyi · Post by **SteveBerenyi** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:20 pm

my plan is to do a Nurgle 40k termie army, but I do not like the GUO model from eith FW or GW so i want to build/sculpt my own.

Then depending on what people think. cast a few for others.

GMMStudios · Post by **GMMStudios** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:27 pm

A guy came into my LGS not that long ago. Used to be a regular but now I see him once every 2 years or so. He cast the tyrannic war veterans out of resin and made a whole army out of them. He held up an original and a cast and I couldnt tell the difference.

So yeah, if you can sculpt something, I would think it would copy really well if you used resin. If you figure it out let me know. I've been thinking of sculpting and casting my own zombies for a game I wrote.

SteveBerenyi · Post by **SteveBerenyi** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 4:57 pm

will do.

nemy · Post by **nemy** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 5:33 pm

as far as sculpting a GUO I would not use 100% GS, generally you would build the base of the model out of something else then add the details /w gs Here is a good example of sculpting a large model : http://www.woodelves.org/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4498

As far as casting, I do it all the time, you can get a decent resin setup for about $100 and its pretty simple. Resin and rubber mould compound are about $20 for half a galon depending on the type you get. Grab some tupperware, and a shop vac. drill a hole in the tupperware and hook the shop vac up to it and you can vaccum cast on the cheap. Use playdough and legos to make the mould. Make a frame out of legos to fit the miniature, then fill it halfway with playdough. Then push the mini in half way and fill with rubber compound, then once it drys remove the playdough and fill the other side, and you have a simple 2 part mould.

I made a 3 part mould of the dreadnought drop pod, vaccume cast it with a shopvac and some tupperware. I used an old coke can in the middle of the mould to save on resin. You cant even tell the diffrence between the Forgeworld one, and my Forgery world one

Considering how cheap it was to set up, I think its probably the best way you could cast anything in your home.

DarkSoul · Post by **DarkSoul** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 6:55 pm

I do resin casting... If you guys want a project done.. LMK and we can discuss costs...

Nemi I don't know where your getting 1/2 gallon of resin for 20.00 but I would like to... as i pay 80.00 per gallon and 120 per gallon of rubber.

As far as greenstuff... DaLoonieShaman here sells it... he is a advertiser...

http://www.greenputty.com/displayProduc ... tegoryId=2

nemy · Post by **nemy** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:45 pm

Nemi I don't know where your getting 1/2 gallon of resin for 20.00 but I would like to... as i pay 80.00 per gallon and 120 per gallon of rubber.

My local hobby shop, they have excelent prices. I can get the name of the products once I get home.

SteveBerenyi · Post by **SteveBerenyi** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 9:24 pm

i would appreciate that.

kturock · Post by **kturock** » Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:51 pm

theres also a green stuff store or such that advertises here too.

just saw the ad.
greenputty.com
it says use the codeword bartertown for a 20% discount

( 832 ) · Post by **MagickalMemories** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:18 am

DCToymachine wrote:I'd be curious about this as well. I was thinking of casting bases for my guard army, but thats 140, and GS is just too expensive to do it. I need to read up on resin casting.

Too easy.
As long as you don't sculpt them with overhanging pieces, you could do bases in a 1 piece mold by just pouring the resin into it.

It's easy to do.

Sculpt your base(s).

Mount them to something flat, solid and level.

Build a small box around them.

Fill the box with rubber mold compound until it's about .5" higher than the top of the base.

When the rubber dries, you have your mold.

Put the flat part of the mold down on a flat level surface and pour your resin in.

Granted, these are SIMPLIFIED directions, but you can get better (detailed) instructions for doing this at www.castlemolds.com.

Eric

GMMStudios · Post by **GMMStudios** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:29 am

Darksoul is going to be casting my bases. I really dont have the time or expertise to do 160 of them. Id prolly go through many more in trial and error.

However Im looking into this for casting of some minis I have sculpted. At the local craft store they have a few different things. Maybe you guys can tell me the differences.

Activa Insta mold. This is about 10 bucks for 12 dry ounces. You mix it with water and it makes a flexible mold. I dont think its rubber though considering its a powder...

Mold builder. They have this on www.micromark.com MM. Do you HAVE to use a thin layer? Can you just pour the whole thing in and make a block style mold?

The only resin they have is this clear stuff that comes in a metal jug. You have to mix a catalyst with it that comes in a small bottle to get it to harden.

Anyone use the above? Any that I should stay clear from?

( 832 ) · Post by **MagickalMemories** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:33 am

DCToymachine wrote:<SNIP>
Mold builder. They have this on www.micromark.com MM. Do you HAVE to use a thin layer? Can you just pour the whole thing in and make a block style mold?

Anyone use the above? Any that I should stay clear from?

Honestly, though I BELIEVE I could do it, based on what I've read (I was GOING to do it, at one time), I've never done it.

To answer BOTH quoted questions, I'd point you back at castlemolds.com again... Bruce Hirst (the owner) knows his stuff and has tutorials, examples and his opinions on every product he's tried listed on his site.

Eric

GMMStudios · Post by **GMMStudios** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:40 am

MagickalMemories wrote: To answer BOTH quoted questions, I'd point you back at castlemolds.com again... Bruce Hirst (the owner) knows his stuff and has tutorials, examples and his opinions on every product he's tried listed on his site.

Eric

Thanks Eric. I just asked because these products aren't on there anywhere and if I can use stuff from in town then that's better for me...

...Im impatient

( 832 ) · Post by **MagickalMemories** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:41 am

Ah.
Gotcha.

I don't know.

I'd rather wait and get it right than hurry and screw it all up.

I'm sure you've come to the same conclusion already, though.

Eric