Unconfirmed Paypal Addresses

[nitsky416]

I've been talking to someone for a trade-in-process, and it got me wondering. If you receive payment via Paypal, and the address on the payment is unconfirmed (or isn't the one your buyer wants you to ship to; in other words, you're not covered under the Buyer Protection Policy), would you go ahead with the deal? Please vote & discuss.

[munkey joe paints]

I put "other" as I am in that boat now. I am from NY. I am out of country now and am having all my things shipped here to work on them. My address here is of course not confirmed. There for I would be a hypocrite if I said no. That being said I would ship via insured and delivery confirmation Just to "CMA" (cover my A*#). I know a lot of guys that buy for friend’s birthdays and other things along those lines and they will need shipping to a "unconfirmed" address. It is one of those "damned if I do, Damned if I don't" deals. I have had someone tell me flat out "NO" to shipping to an address other than my NY one. Kinda sucks for me but I do understand. I am sympathetic toward someone who needs it sent elsewhere, but protect yourself. Use everything to insure that there is a trail of paper and copy all pms and emails to a word doc. That way you help those of us who are good traders and need it somewhere other than home, BUT you don't get screwed by being a nice guy. Just my $0.02.
Tommy

[Sgt_Centurious]

That's what postal insurance & tracking numbers are for.

[nitsky416]

I usually wouldn't have any problems with it if it were a small purchase, i'd done business with them before, or they were an established member of the community. In this particular case, its someone responding who doesn't have a BT account 0_o and its $200+ for an entire army. So I'm being cautious

[kturock]

remember, paypal's protection only goes as far as the money in the paypal account. if it's zero, then you get nothing.
great protection.

also, only premier and business accounts gets protection. i'm a personal account holder. i can't protection as a seller or buyer.

then again, reread the first paragraph i wrote. i'm not losing anything.


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also, you have the protection of the us postal inspectors. no matter what paypal gives you.



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[SteveBerenyi]

being as i do not have a paypal account at all, i have no standing in this so I marked other.

[Datadep5]

I will but typically it happens with ebay. Once and a while I get to sell ebay stuff to people I've traded with here, and that is a comfort.

Unless the person I'm trading with isn't on btown/ebay/something i know, I'll probably ship to an unconfirmed address.

[MagickalMemories]

also, you have the protection of the us postal inspectors. no matter what paypal gives you.

They didn't do much to protect people against Ticknor, or a couple of the other major scammers here.

I say do NOT do it.
If he's got PayPal, then he's got a bank account.
Have him transfer it to his bank account, withdraw the money, take it to the post office & buy a postal (ONLY POSTAL) money order.
Offer to let him deduct the cost of the MO from the $200.

When the money order arrives, take your stuff to the P.O., cash the thing, then ship the minis.

There is NO WAY I'd trust this guy, though, under these circumstances.

Eric

[kturock]

also, you have the protection of the us postal inspectors. no matter what paypal gives you.

They didn't do much to protect people against Ticknor, or a couple of the other major scammers here.

I say do NOT do it.
If he's got PayPal, then he's got a bank account.
Have him transfer it to his bank account, withdraw the money, take it to the post office & buy a postal (ONLY POSTAL) money order.
Offer to let him deduct the cost of the MO from the $200.

When the money order arrives, take your stuff to the P.O., cash the thing, then ship the minis.

There is NO WAY I'd trust this guy, though, under these circumstances.

Eric

the postal inspectors are federal agents, like the FBI. if you don't contact them, or pursue the issue, or have the necessary documentation; they won't do anything.

without knowing the facts, i won't comment on what the inspectors did or didn't do.

unless you were directly involved, and talked to the inspectors, you shouldn't either.

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[nitsky416]

the postal inspectors are federal agents, like the FBI. if you don't contact them, or pursue the issue, or have the necessary documentation; they won't do anything.

without knowing the facts, i won't comment on what the inspectors did or didn't do.

unless you were directly involved, and talked to the inspectors, you shouldn't either..

Whoah there, put a hold on the hostilities, this is a theoretical. I'm asking for personal opinions here, not advice on how to handle a situation - I know what I should be doing if I've been ripped off, thank you very much.

[kturock]

no hostilities.
i was commenting on magical saying that they didn't help people vs ticknor.

i don't know what people did or didn't do, with the inspectors vs ticknor.
obviously, if he's not in jail or facing charges, nothing or not enough.

do answer boils down to; how well do you trust paypal, and their policies.
confirmed addresses are near worthless.
what good does it do if paypal confirms their address? none.
if there is no money in the account, they can't or won't give you any.
the police and postal inspectors don't care that paypal says it's a good address. they verify it themselves when they need it.