Hi all,
I sold an LOTR lot to a trader here a few weeks ago. Trader said money order was sent on or around 12/7. By last week, I still had not seen the money order so i contacted the trader and asked what was up and for a DC# (I always ask for DC on any correspondence, in case something gets lost or whatnot). He said he would inquire at the post office last monday (since it was a postal mo). I didn't hear from him so later in the week I asked what was up and he said he hadn't yet gone to the PO but would go last Saturday (12/23), to cancel the MO. He mentioned that I could repost the lot (since, by now, I don't really want to trade him for it) but I said I'd wait until hearing back from him this weekend.
He didn't respond over the weekend and hasn't responded to my inquiry PM today (though it was opened). So my question is have I waited long enough?? Can I repost this stuff? With the whole new "must followthru with deals" ruling, I'm not sure whether I'm in the right here. Help would be appreciated....
Money Order/Delay Question
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ancientsociety ( 842 )
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Money Order/Delay Question
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2. If you agree to buy something, you have 72hrs. in which to pay. If payment is not received in 72hrs., I will automatically post a Non-Payment/Backout thread.
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4. I accept Paypal & USPS money orders and charge for shipping AT COST. I make no profit from it.
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1. Lower rating ships first - even if I am purchasing.
2. If you agree to buy something, you have 72hrs. in which to pay. If payment is not received in 72hrs., I will automatically post a Non-Payment/Backout thread.
3. Refs are left upon positive receipt of goods, NEVER beforehand!
4. I accept Paypal & USPS money orders and charge for shipping AT COST. I make no profit from it.
5. I trade NIB/new models at retail.
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Case in point of what I was talking about with not making the feedback thing a rule but just a possible course of action, actually. 
The MO was apparently lost in the mail - no fault of either party. The buyer said you could repost the lot if you wanted, and the money order is being canceled.
Given that you've waited to hear from him and he's read your PM, not to mention the fact that he's given you an explicit okay to cancel the deal, I'd say you're in the clear to repost it.
Now, you *could* leave him feedback if you wanted to but there's nothing *requiring* you to do so. The same thing goes for him. Accidents sometimes happen and deals have to be called off. There's no apparent ill will from either party. I mean, you could in theory document the trade by giving him a neutral, but a lot of people tend to regard a neutral as something bad that didn't *quite* warrant a negative feedback. Since his MO was the one that got lost, he really doesn't have grounds for leaving any sort of feedback.
Does that make sense, or am I just obfuscating things even worse?
The MO was apparently lost in the mail - no fault of either party. The buyer said you could repost the lot if you wanted, and the money order is being canceled.
Given that you've waited to hear from him and he's read your PM, not to mention the fact that he's given you an explicit okay to cancel the deal, I'd say you're in the clear to repost it.
Now, you *could* leave him feedback if you wanted to but there's nothing *requiring* you to do so. The same thing goes for him. Accidents sometimes happen and deals have to be called off. There's no apparent ill will from either party. I mean, you could in theory document the trade by giving him a neutral, but a lot of people tend to regard a neutral as something bad that didn't *quite* warrant a negative feedback. Since his MO was the one that got lost, he really doesn't have grounds for leaving any sort of feedback.
Does that make sense, or am I just obfuscating things even worse?
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Lin,
I just wanted to nmake sure I'd be in the clear if I repost this stuff. Like I mentioned in the other thread, unless the other trader was a total jerk (which isn;t the case here), I'd never leave neutral/bad ref for a deal "gone bad", as it were.
Thanks!
I just wanted to nmake sure I'd be in the clear if I repost this stuff. Like I mentioned in the other thread, unless the other trader was a total jerk (which isn;t the case here), I'd never leave neutral/bad ref for a deal "gone bad", as it were.
Thanks!
Trading Guidelines:
1. Lower rating ships first - even if I am purchasing.
2. If you agree to buy something, you have 72hrs. in which to pay. If payment is not received in 72hrs., I will automatically post a Non-Payment/Backout thread.
3. Refs are left upon positive receipt of goods, NEVER beforehand!
4. I accept Paypal & USPS money orders and charge for shipping AT COST. I make no profit from it.
5. I trade NIB/new models at retail.
1. Lower rating ships first - even if I am purchasing.
2. If you agree to buy something, you have 72hrs. in which to pay. If payment is not received in 72hrs., I will automatically post a Non-Payment/Backout thread.
3. Refs are left upon positive receipt of goods, NEVER beforehand!
4. I accept Paypal & USPS money orders and charge for shipping AT COST. I make no profit from it.
5. I trade NIB/new models at retail.
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he should have mailed it as a certified letter. that way you'd have to sign for it. YOU CAN NOT GET DELIVERY CONFIRMATION ON A LETTER. you can on a 1st class package.
if it's lost, you have to file a claim with the usps. it's been a while since i worked that part, but i BELIEVE you have to wait 30 days before you can file to get the money refunded from the MO.
he can have the $$ sent to either you or him, when they refund it. he needs to have his copy of the mo, showing both complete addresses; the to and the from.
this time of year is the worst to mail anything. the distrbution center i work in was open on monday, xmas, the 25th. actually it's always open, but usually only has a skelton crew of about 15 people, to unload the trucks that come in and a supervisor to watch.
this year, the district office out of orlando, MANDATED that people work. so everyone who had monday off as a day off, had to work. some of the most senior people had to work on xmas for the 1st time in 25+ years. the part timers had to work also, but they usually get stuck working holidays, but not xmas.
supposedly, the facility had 1 million pieces of delayed mail last year after xams. [that's about 1 day's work, on a heavy day.] district didn't want that to happen again.
so, back to your question.
if he didn't put a number on it, it has almost no chance of being found. if he did, he has a slim chance.
it should have been sent certified. at least that way it might have been scanned along the way, and he would have proof of when he mailed it and where it mailed it to.
he needs to file a lost mail claim form and find out how long he has to wait to file for a refund for the MO. i believe it's 30 days.
i don't recall the turn around time for the MO refund, but it's not the same day, or even week.
if it's lost, you have to file a claim with the usps. it's been a while since i worked that part, but i BELIEVE you have to wait 30 days before you can file to get the money refunded from the MO.
he can have the $$ sent to either you or him, when they refund it. he needs to have his copy of the mo, showing both complete addresses; the to and the from.
this time of year is the worst to mail anything. the distrbution center i work in was open on monday, xmas, the 25th. actually it's always open, but usually only has a skelton crew of about 15 people, to unload the trucks that come in and a supervisor to watch.
this year, the district office out of orlando, MANDATED that people work. so everyone who had monday off as a day off, had to work. some of the most senior people had to work on xmas for the 1st time in 25+ years. the part timers had to work also, but they usually get stuck working holidays, but not xmas.
supposedly, the facility had 1 million pieces of delayed mail last year after xams. [that's about 1 day's work, on a heavy day.] district didn't want that to happen again.
so, back to your question.
if he didn't put a number on it, it has almost no chance of being found. if he did, he has a slim chance.
it should have been sent certified. at least that way it might have been scanned along the way, and he would have proof of when he mailed it and where it mailed it to.
he needs to file a lost mail claim form and find out how long he has to wait to file for a refund for the MO. i believe it's 30 days.
i don't recall the turn around time for the MO refund, but it's not the same day, or even week.
My apologies if this appears as threadjacking.kturock wrote: <SNIP>but i BELIEVE you have to wait 30 days before you can file to get the money refunded from the MO. <SNIP>
Is this true? I had a trade (on another forum) where I was told a MO was sent but didn't show up. Two weeks later and after threatening to file mail fraud charges ect..., the other party told me they canceled it and sent another one (this time certified) that did show up.
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In my experience... you can cancel a money order at any time... ive done it 3 days after buying it because someone messed up a deal. Now i cant remember if I got the money back right then or if it was mailed to me at some other time... but i do know you can cancel it at any time.. it would be pointless if you couldnt...
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Just to mention that in Canada buying a (post office)money order,is like sending cash.
I never send Bank mo's to the US as they are literally uncashable at US banks.
Postal MO's are cashable at any post office in the US and can be sent in US funds .(no worries about exchange rates etc.on the part of the US receiver.
as for cancelling them ,that may be easier said than done as far as Canadian MOs are concerned.
I've never had the occasion so...
MM
I never send Bank mo's to the US as they are literally uncashable at US banks.
Postal MO's are cashable at any post office in the US and can be sent in US funds .(no worries about exchange rates etc.on the part of the US receiver.
as for cancelling them ,that may be easier said than done as far as Canadian MOs are concerned.
I've never had the occasion so...
MM
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