Starting Warhammer 40k

bubbaduck76 · Post by **bubbaduck76** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:14 pm

just wanting to know since i am just starting warhammer 40k if i should go with orks or the Space marines

please help

wookieegunner · Post by **wookieegunner** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:16 pm

Really that depends. Do you like to have a lot of models on the board? Honestly the two armies play different enough that it's impossible to say A or B without knowing anything you. Do you currently play any wargames? If so what, what force do you play, and why?

bubbaduck76 · Post by **bubbaduck76** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:18 pm

well i used to play Lotr which i am selling and liked the orcs i like being evil and blowing stuff up lol but i also like to be a good happy person to

i hope this helps a little

govannon · Post by **govannon** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:50 pm

bubbaduck76 wrote:but i also like to be a good happy person to

That eliminates several of the marine chapters!

mrrshann618 · Post by **mrrshann618** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:20 am

Yeah I don't think there is a single happy marine chapters out there.
Unless you count Chaos, them Emperor's Children seem happy all the time

As for your question Do you like playing a specialist army that is flexible and more of a jack-of-all-trades
OR
Do you like your strengths to rely on mass hordes

Do you find yourself liking an army of similar stats and abilities.
OR
Do you like to have "one-trick-pony" units that are the lynchpin of your army?

Do you like being able to fight to the last man
OR
Do you like having so many figures in a fight that morale really isn't an issue?

If you find yourself agreeing more with the first statement in each pair then you will enjoy the Space Marines more
If you find yourself apgreeing more with the second statements in each pair, then you will enjoy the Orks more

Marines are going to be more forgiving to those who are not used to alot of tactics becuase of the higher than avererage stats in everything.
Ork players need to understand that you are going to loose guys, lots of guys, and that to loose those guys it is not the end of the world. (unless you loose your Ork biker nob uberunit)

bubbaduck76 · Post by **bubbaduck76** » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:01 am

ok thx guys well i think i might go with the orks because i like to blow things up and i think they would be fun to play with and if i play with them for a while and dont like them then i can sell them and switch to the space marines

does this sound good then?

bubbaduck76 · Post by **bubbaduck76** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 1:51 am

Decided to go with orks thanks for the help

don_mondo · Post by **don_mondo** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:39 pm

Good choice, Orkses is more funz dan them there beekiez.

bubbaduck76 · Post by **bubbaduck76** » Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:16 pm

thx don know i am currently trying to trade my lotr stuff for a ork army

bubbaduck76 · Post by **bubbaduck76** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:26 am

know i am wanting to do Space Marines

( 3094 ) · Post by **porkuslime** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:31 am

Welcome to 40k.. where you want a different army about once a week..

Do both if your budget can handle it..

Imaginos · Post by **Imaginos** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:33 am

porkuslime wrote:Welcome to 40k.. where you want a different army about once a week..

Do both if your budget can handle it..

Seconding this idea. Heck, I never built my 1st army (Tau) and I'm working on my 3rd army (Space Marines) - still having not assembled my 2nd army (Tyranids). But I'm working my Tau into the Space Marines, so at least there is some trade out instead of bumping up continuously.

bubbaduck76 · Post by **bubbaduck76** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:57 pm

ok and what are the up and downs of orks compared to Space marines

( 3094 ) · Post by **porkuslime** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:45 pm

In a nutshell

Orks -
fluff wise - lighthearted killers, great attitude, might makes right
modeling wise - lots of great kitbash possibilities
on the table - LOTS of infantry models to paint
game play - mainly HORDE .. you will want to charge and get the boyz and bikes into melee.. shooting pansy guns is NOT the way to win with orks.

Marines-
Fluff - almost warrior monks, each warrior has a history and when he dies, his chapter is diminished. War is a religion almost
Modeling - conversion possibilities abound with the plastics, very dynamic poses, can tell stories just by the model
on the table - small, elite force, most common paint schemes are easy to paint and make look good.
game play - shooting AND melee style.. marines are good at both, but every model you lose hurts.

hope that helps..

don_mondo · Post by **don_mondo** » Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:49 pm

Either one is actually pretty good for a beginner. Marine armies are generally smaller, relying on smaller baseline troop units for their core and then specialty units/vehicles for specific tasks. Their base troops have better saves than orks and are generally more survivable. Orks rely on either small fast moving units of troops (12 or less in a trukk) or large foot-slogging mobs (up to 30). Either way, their armor save is practically non-existent and they die. As with Marines, they then rely on other specialist units for specific purposes. For both armies, Morale is seldom an issue.

Here's a thread on our club forum re Orks:
http://www.ironfistleague.com/forum/vie ... f=9&t=1647

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