40K Ork rules question

[don_mondo]

Did anybody email the rulezboyz? Or do they even have dem boyz anymore?

Karl

askyourquestion@games-workshop.com

[Adunaphel]

OK. So, I blew it on the ruleboyz idea.
It was pretty stupid anyway. Although, I remember calling them once a LONG time ago and getting a pretty good answer. But then again, I don't play with people who want to argue about rules. I just play to have fun.

Jay, I would think of it as chaperoning...
One parent per ten. Once you go over ten kids (or grots which look and act fairly similar from what I have seen), you need another chaperone even if it's only for one kid/grot. So 10 equals 1 runtherder (which also sounds eerily like a parent), >10 but <20 equals two runtherders/parents. And so on, Ad nauseam.

That's just my take on it. Obviously from a parent's viewpoint.

Karl

[craasher]

From me as a parent. I would duct tape the 11th one to the 10th one so he couldn't run away. In fact I might duct tape them in groups of two so I would only have 6 kids to keep up with.

[MagickalMemories]

From me as a parent. I would duct tape the 11th one to the 10th one so he couldn't run away. In fact I might duct tape them in groups of two so I would only have 6 kids to keep up with.

Or just duct tape them all together and go have yourself a beer?

LOL

I'm with Karl. How I THINK it was intended was that, for every group or fraction of 10 you need a Runtherd. By STRICT interpretation, however, that isn't the case.


Eric

[JohnHwangBT]

Guys, this is very basic comprehension.

It says "for every ten", not "for every ten or fraction thereof".

Therefore if you don't have 10 models, you don't need a herder, and/or you can't take an upgrade.

[Adunaphel]

Well, I'll be honest, I don't have the codex. But the original poster's (Jay) quote was "for every 10 Gretchin you must take 1 Runtherd". That's a little different than "for every ten"...

Not to knock your basic comprehension comment, but sometimes GW's rules kind of mow down basic comprehension with an autocannon.

I take the original quote (which is all I have to go by) to mean that 1 runtherder for 10 grots. Add any more grots and you have to add one more runtherder. Ah... Rules interpretation. Now if I was playing across the board, I wouldn't care as long as it isn't blatant rules breaking.

Karl

[JohnHwangBT]

the original poster's (Jay) quote was "for every 10 ...". That's a little different than "for every ten"...

Um, how is "for every 10" different from "for every ten"?

You realise that "10" == "ten", right?

[Adunaphel]

You chopped down my quote. Yes, I realize that 10=ten...
What I don't agree with you is that you can have up to ten without a runtherder. Which is the part of the quote that you left out. You can go back to my slightly silly parent/kid analogy to see how I interpret that rule.

It really doesn't matter to me.
Your interpretation is that WHEN you get to 10, you HAVE to add a runtherder. MY interpretation is that UP TO ten you have a runtherder. Once you go above ten, you add another. And so forth. It's the "for every" and "must have" that are vague. I see it like a unit of Space Marines. When you have 10, you have the sargeant and 9 dudes. When you have 8 you STILL have a sargeant and 7 dudes...

And the rule (as quoted) is slightly vague and both ways could be interpreted out of it.

Karl

[bluemeenie]

Your interpretation is that WHEN you get to 10, you HAVE to add a runtherder. MY interpretation is that UP TO ten you have a runtherder.

Being that a minimum number in a squad of Gretchin must be at least 10, then you are always going to have a runtherder.



which to me kind of settles the point. 10 = 1 11-20 = 2 21-30 = 3 and that is your limit.

besides gretchin are so cheap......if your gonna get 15 why not get 20.

[oaflord]

10-19 = min of 1 to a max of 3
20-29 = min of 2 to a max of 3
30 = 3

So sayeth the Direct Services Troll guy you would call in Canada. He does it himself.

oAFLORD

[YoungWolf777]

Woot. My second revised guess would seem to be correct then.

[MagickalMemories]

Mail order Trolls / Rulezboyz OPINIONS mean nothing.
Ask 3 different guys and you'll get 4 different answers.

Bottom line, as I've said, is that this will continue to be a problem until GW FAQ's it.


Eric