I had a guy make a offer then drag it out then say he was not able to come up with money he offered and I can understand things come up but it was like pulling teeth to get responses from this guy.... it was at another site
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/po ... 14764.page
How would you call this, and how do you avoid it?
Im hoping just to get some suggestions from those who may have had something similar happen and how you deal with it
Thank you for your time
Cheers
what would you call this? and how to deal with it!
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Re: what would you call this? and how to deal with it!
Well considering he only posted one link, I'd say he lost interest. Keep the advert up and continue to look for another fish. Since it isn't a Bartertown trade you CANNOT post a Bad Trader Report or a Deadbeat/Backout report.
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Re: what would you call this? and how to deal with it!
I'd tell him that he as X days to complete his portion of the deal or the deal is off.
If you've agreed on terms and such, then payment would have been expected within a reasonable amount of time.
For me, that means a maximum of 3 business days to send payment. If he doesn't do pay, then he's broken the deal.
As this is off-site, you'll have to deal with him over there.
If you've agreed on terms and such, then payment would have been expected within a reasonable amount of time.
For me, that means a maximum of 3 business days to send payment. If he doesn't do pay, then he's broken the deal.
As this is off-site, you'll have to deal with him over there.
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Re: what would you call this? and how to deal with it!
Yes Im am aware this was on another site so Im only looking for how you feel about this sort of thing and who to deal and avoid it, their was a bit of emails behind the scenes as well so Im feeling a bit let down by the first effort and then the back-out all of a sudden with out any good communications so please feel free to reply its good to here how others deal with this type of things here and other places Thanks 
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Re: what would you call this? and how to deal with it!
Well, the problem is that you really CAN'T avoid it.
I mean, people will be people, and you're always going to have that.
It might not always happen to you... but they'll always be out there.
People change their mind, decide to spend their money elsewhere, think it's funny to lead people on... The list goes on.
Just don't hold anything for anyone unless they SPECIFICALLY ask you to... and, even then, put a specific time limit on it:
"Okay. I'll hold them for you until you come up with the money or for one week, whichever comes first."
Also, don't *look* so dependent on them. By your responses in your thread, it seemed to me that he was the only person who showed any interest and you REALLY wanted the sale.
Two other -norelated- pieces of advice:
1) Get better images. All we can see is that the stuff's painted and that there's a WHOLE lot of red with some black & silver.
2) This is counter-productive:
(emphasis mine)
If you're accepting "best offer," don't imply that some offers will be considered too low. If You say "Best Offer" and the best offer you get is $50, then you should honor it. If that isn't good enough, you should offer a price you're looking for or remove "best offer" and say, "Make an Offer." Also, give a time frame. If you're going to make it "Best offer by August 30," then say that. Otherwise, it seems as if you're saying "I'm holding on to these models until someone makes me an offer I like." With the second one, people don't know how long the "bidding" is open and, after a week or 2, might spend that money. if you come back and let them know they "won" after two weeks, you might just get a "orry, Charlie."
Oh... and you will tend to get better responses on trade oriented sites over discussion oriented sites.
Hope that helps.
Eric
I mean, people will be people, and you're always going to have that.
It might not always happen to you... but they'll always be out there.
People change their mind, decide to spend their money elsewhere, think it's funny to lead people on... The list goes on.
Just don't hold anything for anyone unless they SPECIFICALLY ask you to... and, even then, put a specific time limit on it:
"Okay. I'll hold them for you until you come up with the money or for one week, whichever comes first."
Also, don't *look* so dependent on them. By your responses in your thread, it seemed to me that he was the only person who showed any interest and you REALLY wanted the sale.
Two other -norelated- pieces of advice:
1) Get better images. All we can see is that the stuff's painted and that there's a WHOLE lot of red with some black & silver.
2) This is counter-productive:
Taking offers = highest bidder takes it home so if you want this lot, YOU make the first offer. and check the forge world site before you make a silly low bid.
(emphasis mine)
If you're accepting "best offer," don't imply that some offers will be considered too low. If You say "Best Offer" and the best offer you get is $50, then you should honor it. If that isn't good enough, you should offer a price you're looking for or remove "best offer" and say, "Make an Offer." Also, give a time frame. If you're going to make it "Best offer by August 30," then say that. Otherwise, it seems as if you're saying "I'm holding on to these models until someone makes me an offer I like." With the second one, people don't know how long the "bidding" is open and, after a week or 2, might spend that money. if you come back and let them know they "won" after two weeks, you might just get a "orry, Charlie."
Oh... and you will tend to get better responses on trade oriented sites over discussion oriented sites.
Hope that helps.
Eric
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Re: what would you call this? and how to deal with it!
MagickalMemories,
WOW thats one crazy avater you got love to know more..LOL and thanks for the tips.
WOW thats one crazy avater you got love to know more..LOL and thanks for the tips.
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Re: what would you call this? and how to deal with it!
Do NOT encourage him.MagickalMemories,
WOW thats one crazy avater you got love to know more
That is all.
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Re: what would you call this? and how to deal with it!
Excuse me, sir.Morlock-Bloodletter wrote:Do NOT encourage him.MagickalMemories,
WOW thats one crazy avater you got love to know more
That is all.
What you just did there is called "threadjacking." Your comment was ott-topic and added nothing to the discussion.
At this time, I'd like to take a moment to remind you that Threadjacking is against Bartertown rules. Please discontinue your off-topic postings, or I shall be forced to give you a warning.
... and, besides; When did *I* ever need external encouragement? The entertainment I provide for myself is more than enough to encourage me. LOL
Eric
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Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
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Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.
Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
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Re: what would you call this? and how to deal with it!
Indeed, and while we're on the topic of threadjacking and administrivia, I'd like to remind you that your post added nothing to the discussion, either.MagickalMemories wrote:Excuse me, sir.
What you just did there is called "threadjacking." Your comment was ott-topic and added nothing to the discussion.
In the future, I would suggest that, rather than waste everybody's time with such follow-ups, that you take it to PMs.
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Re: what would you call this? and how to deal with it!
Gee it seems as if even the person pointing out threadjacking to someone pointing out threadjacking to someone who threadjacked is in the same boat.
As for the original problem, I took a look at the link, As long as the "auction" wasn't over then the guy could drag it out as long as he really wanted. However once that "auction" was over then time to fork up. I'm not a member of Dakka Dakka and do not know what their policy is on such things. If it were here I'd have simply shrugged and put the individual on my personal "don't even bother with" list
Pain in the arse, yup. But that is the problem you run into with "make me an offer"
As for the original problem, I took a look at the link, As long as the "auction" wasn't over then the guy could drag it out as long as he really wanted. However once that "auction" was over then time to fork up. I'm not a member of Dakka Dakka and do not know what their policy is on such things. If it were here I'd have simply shrugged and put the individual on my personal "don't even bother with" list
Pain in the arse, yup. But that is the problem you run into with "make me an offer"
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Re: what would you call this? and how to deal with it!
..except that, as a Watchman, I'm *allowed* to go off topic to advise someone that he/she is Off Topic. Therefore, I was not off topic.
Peacie, you hit the nail on the head. DNT him and be done with it.
Dakka has an ignore feature, as well. I rather like it as it shows you THAT you're ignoring a post from someone on your list and gives you the option to look at it by clicjking on it, but you don't ahve to read it.
I only have two people on my list over there.
One because he's rude (extremely so) and the other because he's (a) NOT a native English speaker (b) dyslexic (literally) and (c) makes no effort to even TRY to check his posts for accuracy - I only understand half to 2/3 of what the guy says.
Oh... and I have NONE over here... I think. LOL
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Peacie, you hit the nail on the head. DNT him and be done with it.
Dakka has an ignore feature, as well. I rather like it as it shows you THAT you're ignoring a post from someone on your list and gives you the option to look at it by clicjking on it, but you don't ahve to read it.
I only have two people on my list over there.
One because he's rude (extremely so) and the other because he's (a) NOT a native English speaker (b) dyslexic (literally) and (c) makes no effort to even TRY to check his posts for accuracy - I only understand half to 2/3 of what the guy says.
Oh... and I have NONE over here... I think. LOL
Eric
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Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell
Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.
Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell
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Re: what would you call this? and how to deal with it!
And as a Site Admin. Morlock can do even more...except that, as a Watchman, I'm *allowed* to go off topic to advise someone that he/she is Off Topic. Therefore, I was not off topic.
Even if it isn't the 40k site. "You can't always get what you want, but sometimes, you get what you need." - The Rolling Stones
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Re: what would you call this? and how to deal with it!
Morlock, though, is an Admin here (as you said), and should set the standard which we all follow. My reminder to him was to keep him on the straight and narrow.Ironhide wrote:And as a Site Admin. Morlock can do even more...except that, as a Watchman, I'm *allowed* to go off topic to advise someone that he/she is Off Topic. Therefore, I was not off topic.
Next thing you know, he'll be taking bribes!
LOL
Eric
Lower rating? You ship first.
Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell
Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.
Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell
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Re: what would you call this? and how to deal with it!
One can only hope!!!
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