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i recently had a mod edit one of my posts several times but it doesn't say which one did it. are they/you supposed to sign their edits?

We can, but it is not a requirement.
For all intents and purposes, any Mod or Admin edit can be considered from "Staff," and not from any individual Staff member.

If we (Admins or Mods) ever need to know who made the edit, we can go in and look that up.

Otherwise, all edits should be considered general, and not from any individual staff member.


Hope that helps.

Eric

I edited your post for the reasons I gave in the thread. I edited it several times because my computer wasn't liking me that day. That or the interwebs weren't liking me. So it took several times to get it right. Do you feel like you were slighted?

while i agree i shouldn't have added on to a BO thread, i do think that starting the edit with "Hello Moron!" (since edited out in your subsequent revisions) was incredibly unprofessional and very uncharacteristic of what i've general seen here from the mods. if you're chastising someone for not following the rules, you probably shouldn't start out your edit with 3rd grade name calling.

I believe this was a case of you being unlucky offender #10,000. The offense you made is a common one and a particular serious one. When you see the same offense made regularly from people that refuse to read the rules provided, sometimes people can get a little snappy. You should consider yourself lucky that you did not get a vacation from the site for posting unsubstantiated accusations against another trader. In the real world it is called "libel" and it is a criminal offense.

Norseman answered it perfectly. You could be on a 2 week vacation, but instead you just got insulted a bit. While childish, it does leave an impression and you will remember the experience. You are not the only person to have received this treatment, so don't feel like you were singled out.

BTW, last I checked, the "moron" part had been edited out.

[quote="Norseman"] In the real world it is called "libel" and it is a criminal offense.[/quote]

in my real world (the US), it's not a criminal offense but a civil matter. if the person i accused of wasting my time (which is all i actually accused them of) decides to sue me, i have plenty of proof in my defense (two weeks worth of delaying pms/emails including me refusing other offers and a basement full of figs). either way, my original question (both asked and unwritten) is answered and i consider the matter resolved without any hard feelings.

When posts here on BT get heated and name calling starts, that is usually when staff steps in to calm things down. They do a good job with that on here. But then for a staff person to do the name calling, I think is wrong. If a staff member wants to call somebody a moron for breaking the rules, then it should have happened through PM. I just think it sets a bad example for users when staff does it.

George

bielmic and I have talked about this and have come to an understanding on this. Basically it comes down to this, users are not allowed to "add-on" to a BTR or BO/DB thread, when such a thing happens there are two ways to handle it. One way is to follow the letter of the law and give the user a suspension (2 week ban). The other way (which is the way I've been using) is to humiliate them along the lines of, "Hey look at me! I'm an idiot and tried to add on to this BTR. If I was smart I would have read the rules and created my own BTR." Or something along those lines. The person seems to get the message when they see that, and it precludes other users from harassing them for their mistake.

So which do the members of this site like? Suspension or humiliation? Neither? Better alternative which teaches the user a lesson?

Personally, I'm preferential to the "humiliation" aspect, bucause (a) it's just a bit of smart-assery on our part and (b) it's a short term little sting in the pride. A suspension is a couple weeks long and, I THINK, would probably be more bothersome than just being the butt of a joke.

The only part I had a problem with was the actual name calling. IMO, it was a step too far. Nothing I'm, like, bent out of shape over or anything. Just a little judgement error.


Eric

I can see your view on that, and respect it. It's just after having been through Army basic training, and having drill sergeants call you every name in the book; name calling falls pretty low on my list of things that can mentally/emotionally hurt me.

A little humiliation is good for the soul...the root is "humility", after all.

I don't know if I would want to be called a moron, but it makes me smile to think of Mods calling other users that over their mistakes. But I am mean that way.

In terms of the long term health of the boards, direct insults are probably best avoided. We don't want anyone seen as a bully for doing their job. And that said, Ironhide did revise the edit to delete the offending content, so, no harm, no foul.

Ironhide wrote:I can see your view on that, and respect it. It's just after having been through Army basic training, and having drill sergeants call you every name in the book; name calling falls pretty low on my list of things that can mentally/emotionally hurt me.

I'm the son of a Nam Vet Marine, a brother's a Navy vet, my best friend's been Army AND Navy & served 2 tours in Iraq and one in Afghanistan. I grew up in a "hard" neighborhood where fighting was as common as breathing and hard core name calling was a bonding experience. LOL
I understand where you're coming from. : )

s_o_r_r_o_w wrote:A little humiliation is good for the soul...the root is "humility", after all.

I don't know if I would want to be called a moron, but it makes me smile to think of Mods calling other users that over their mistakes. But I am mean that way.

Oh, yes. That happens.
Right, IH?

s_o_r_r_o_w wrote:In terms of the long term health of the boards, direct insults are probably best avoided. We don't want anyone seen as a bully for doing their job. And that said, Ironhide did revise the edit to delete the offending content, so, no harm, no foul.

Yeah. He's a good guy like that.


Eric