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Is it normal for people to not leave references?
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:58 pm
by chutche2
I've left 7 good references for each of my completed trades so far, and gotten two back. Is that the norm here? It's making it feel like not bothering to leave any.
Re: Is it normal for people to not leave references?
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:54 pm
by pretre
A lot of the time you need to remind people. Sometimes, they never leave a reference though. I have, for example, 18 references that were never left by others.

Re: Is it normal for people to not leave references?
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:15 am
by 3eland
It is normal yes.
I have a good chunk of people who have never left me references, some even after I bring it up (kindly of course) days later.
Unless you put it in your actual trading agreement, members are NOT required to leave you feedback. Meaning, you owe no one feedback, and no one owes you.
It's kind of "frowned" upon though since this site is about coming together and building networks/connections.
The best thing for you to do is send them a PM kindly asking if they would leave you a reference, or, what you could do in the future for them to leave a reference. Most of the time they will apologize (life can be busy after all) and leave you one.
If you decide to add it into your trading agreement, then it is "owed" to you as the reference is part of the deal. I have found a lot of new members have started doing that to help boost their score.
Ryan
Re: Is it normal for people to not leave references?
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:35 am
by MagickalMemories
I'm going to do something VERY rare here...
I disagree with 3eland.
It is NOT normal for only 29(ish)% of your trades to leave you a reference.
It IS normal for people not to leave references, but not in those percentages.
A suggestion for you, if I may?
Make "At the successful completion of the trade, we will each leave a positive reference for the other within 7 days," part of your trade agreement.
When both of you have received your items, follow up with a message of "Do we agree that we're both happy that this was a successful trade?"
If you leave a ref, but your partner doesn't, you have just cause to ask staff to delete his reference. I don't suggest it but, IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO BE A JERK, you would also then have an argument to support leaving them a negative, since they did not reciprocate a reference. *I* would not do that.... but it's a theoretical possibility.
Eric
Re: Is it normal for people to not leave references?
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:45 am
by 3eland
MagickalMemories wrote:I'm going to do something VERY rare here...
I disagree with 3eland.
It is NOT normal for only 29(ish)% of your trades to leave you a reference.
It IS normal for people not to leave references, but not in those percentages.
A suggestion for you, if I may?
Make "At the successful completion of the trade, we will each leave a positive reference for the other within 7 days," part of your trade agreement.
When both of you have received your items, follow up with a message of "Do we agree that we're both happy that this was a successful trade?"
If you leave a ref, but your partner doesn't, you have just cause to ask staff to delete his reference. I don't suggest it but, IF YOU REALLY WANTED TO BE A JERK, you would also then have an argument to support leaving them a negative, since they did not reciprocate a reference. *I* would not do that.... but it's a theoretical possibility.
Eric
Woah woah. You aren't allowed to disagree with me!
lol. I meant it is normal for you to not receive References (multiple even). I wasn't refering to the % not received back.
Ryan
Re: Is it normal for people to not leave references?
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:59 pm
by MagickalMemories
First of all... Yes. I certainly am allowed to do that, Newbadmin. I can disagree with anybody I want.
And you're only backtracking now because I called you out on how wrong you is.
You was all trying to make the new guy like "Oh, noes! I ain't getting no references ever," and I was like "Oh, no he di-int." Now you's all backtrackin' and stuff.
Eric
Re: Is it normal for people to not leave references?
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:11 pm
by pretre
I'm just over here smiling that I have more refs than MM now.

Re: Is it normal for people to not leave references?
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 1:02 am
by 3eland
MagickalMemories wrote:First of all... Yes. I certainly am allowed to do that, Newbadmin. I can disagree with anybody I want.
And you're only backtracking now because I called you out on how wrong you is.
You was all trying to make the new guy like "Oh, noes! I ain't getting no references ever," and I was like "Oh, no he di-int." Now you's all backtrackin' and stuff.
Eric
Nuh uh.
pretre wrote:I'm just over here smiling that I have more refs than MM now.

Now time to beat Pork.
Ryan
Re: Is it normal for people to not leave references?
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 4:15 am
by pretre
Working on it.

Re: Is it normal for people to not leave references?
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:21 am
by MagickalMemories
pretre wrote:I'm just over here smiling that I have more refs than MM now.

More refs than me? M***erF***er, that ain't NOTHING to brag about. I've done about 4 trades in the last year. I have precious little time (or trade fodder) for it.
Wanna brag? Get your POST COUNT above mine!
And... 3eland? Keep talking, punk.
Banhammers for EVERYONE!
Eric
Re: Is it normal for people to not leave references?
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 3:07 pm
by jason1977
Admins stop....i need more pop corn.
And heres a hammer:
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Ban away.
Re: Is it normal for people to not leave references?
Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2016 5:34 pm
by pretre
MagickalMemories wrote:pretre wrote:I'm just over here smiling that I have more refs than MM now.

More refs than me? M***erF***er, that ain't NOTHING to brag about. I've done about 4 trades in the last year. I have precious little time (or trade fodder) for it.
Wanna brag? Get your POST COUNT above mine!
And... 3eland? Keep talking, punk.
Banhammers for EVERYONE!
Eric
Whatever you need to tell yourself.

Re: Is it normal for people to not leave references?
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 3:59 am
by MagickalMemories
Says the guy with less than a thousand posts.
Pfft.
No0b.
Eric
Re: Is it normal for people to not leave references?
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:26 am
by 3eland
Yeah!
Re: Is it normal for people to not leave references?
Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2016 5:42 am
by pretre
MagickalMemories wrote:Says the guy with less than a thousand posts.
Pfft.
No0b.
Eric
It's just because I don't have to interject myself into conversations because I claim to be an admin or something.
