Trading Courtesy - Have i messed up? Please advise.
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 4:05 pm
Hi all i have recently have had transaction go sour on another website, iam not entirely sure if i have broken some unspoken rule of trading or similar but the the deal went pearshaped quite badly, please advise. If I *edit* all of this up then i would very much like to be able to apologise to Avatar Form and sort this out, if not then i have the comfort of knowing that it wasn't my mistake.
Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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Hi,
I have been attempting to complete my Rackham Confrontation collection for a while and one of my friends said you might have some to move.
If you, or anyone you know, could help me with this, I am willing to pay reasonably or trade for other OOP miniatures.
Please let me know,
Cameron
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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yeah i got a couple of doubles and should be recieving about two to threehundred blisters sometime soon, so i guess i have quite a few minis to spare
what are you after?
cheers tim
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Hi Tim.
The list is big... but only what is NECESSARY to regain the dreams shattered by Rackham's poor business plan...
ALCHEMISTS OF DIRZ:
Arkeon Sanath SCCH02
Centurus Clone 1 SCVC01
Centurus Clone 2 SCVC02
Lady Claudia Nessalith SCFI02
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01
Kayl Kartan SCMA01
Keratis warriors SCBO03
Dasyatis Clone SCCR04
Dasyatis Clone 02 SCCR05
Nefarius Clone SCBO04
Scorpion Neuromancer SCSP06
Razheem the Insane SCLV01
Salias Yesod SCAV01
Sethin SCCH04
Sykho Volesterus SCFI01
Tarascus SCTI01
Tiger of Dirz 1 SCCR01
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02
Tiger of Dirz 3 SCCR03
Vargas Metatron SCCH01
Ysis the Viper SCHE02
Centurus clones 1 SCEL06
Centurus clones 2 SCEL07
LIMBO OF ARCHERON:
Asura de Sarlath MVMA03
Black Wolf MVCR07
Cerberus of Achéron MVCR06
The Bogeyman MVFI01
The Gorgon MVAV02
Ejhin de Vanth MVFI02
Archeronnn Emmissary MVVC02
Spectre of Acheron MVSP03
Kaïn the Scourge MVCH06
CADWALLON:
Asha Ruyar CDMA01
Souffree-toile CDMG01
CYNWALL:
Cynwäll Dragon CYBO01
Sÿlann, khidarÿm champion CYCH04
Nelphaëll CYCH02
Maelyn, Cynwall Initiate CYMA02
Galhyan, Cynwäll Heliast CYMA01
Equanimous warrior CYMG01
Titan Dragon of Aarklash CYTI01
Cynwäll Synchronïme CYGM01
Cynwäll Nova 2 CYFR04
Cynwäll Nova 1 CYFR03
Cynwäll Construct Warriors CYFR01
DAIKINEE:
Kurujaï, Daïkinee archer DACH05
Mandigorn warrior DACR01
Numaë, daïkinee guardian DACH06
Dream warrior DAGM01
DEVOURERS:
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01
Flesh eaters (box) 1 DVBO01
Flesh eaters (box) 2 DVBO01
Flesh eaters (box) 3 DVBO01
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01
Managarm the Traitoress DVCH03
Master of Carnage DVGM01
GRIFFONS OF AKYYLANIE:
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02
Kyrus the Somber GRCH08
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02
Shanys the Shadow GRCH03
Templars of the Inquisition GREL02
Griffin Thallions 1 GREL04
Griffin Thallions 2 GREL05
KELTS of DRUNE CLAN:
Ardokath DRFI01
Balkròn DRCH04
Damrahl, Drune Wyrd DRMA02
Drune Raiders DRBO01
Hound of Scathâch DRCR01
Morgwen the Bloody DRCH03
Wandyr DRHE01
Enoch the Elementalist BAMA02
Kelen the Thirteenth Voice BAAV02
Koren the Chosen One BACH05
ALAHAN LIONS:
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01
Aldenyss the Quiet LIHE03
YSHAELLE LISP04
Sardar Tillius LIMA04
Sardar the Pure LIMA01
Pythia of Azël LIMG01
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02
Royal standard-bearer LIPE04
The Red Lionness LIHE01
Dragan of Orianthe LICH03
The Red Lionness LIHE02
Danil the Valiant LICH06
The Chimera LIMA06
Mounted Bard of Alahan LIGM03
OPHIDIANS:
Bregan, Apostate of the Darkness OPCH03
Apostates of Darkness 1 OPBO01
Apostates of Darkness 3 OPBO01
OTHER:
Alyena SCSP04
Royal Guard Statue ACVC01
ORCS OF BRAN-O'KOR:
Shaka-Morkhai ORLV01
Please let me know what you have, I have made some fair deals with some folk locally and have only had trouble finding these few.
Cheers,
Cameron
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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I believe i have doubles of the following: -what would you offer for each blister/box just write it behind the mini in question and i'll say yay or nay?
Arkeon Sanath SCCH02
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01
Keratis warriors SCBO03 - is that the box? or the blister? i've got blisters
Nefarius Clone SCBO04
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02
Black Wolf MVCR07
Asha Ruyar CDMA01
Titan Dragon of Aarklash CYTI01
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01
Flesh eaters (box) 1 DVBO01
Flesh eaters (box) 2 DVBO01
Flesh eaters (box) 3 DVBO01
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01
Managarm the Traitoress DVCH03
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02
Griffin Thallions 1 GREL04
Griffin Thallions 2 GREL05
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01
Sardar Tillius LIMA04
Pythia of Azël LIMG01
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02
Royal standard-bearer LIPE04
The Chimera LIMA06
Mounted Bard of Alahan LIGM03
Shaka-Morkhai ORLV01
cheers tim
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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Hi Tim,
Going off the RoL price scheme, I would offer the following:
Arkeon Sanath SCCH02 - 14
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01 - 14
Keratis warriors SCBO03 - is that the box? or the blister? i've got blisters - 16
Nefarius Clone SCBO04 - 45
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02 - 12
Black Wolf MVCR07 - 14
Asha Ruyar CDMA01 - 14
Titan Dragon of Aarklash CYTI01 - 120
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01 - 14
Flesh eaters (box) 1 DVBO01 - 16
Flesh eaters (box) 2 DVBO01 -16
Flesh eaters (box) 3 DVBO01 - 16
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01 - 16
Managarm the Traitoress DVCH03 - 20
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02 - 16
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02 - 20
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02 - 14
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01 - 20
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02 - 14
Griffin Thallions 1 GREL04 - 16
Griffin Thallions 2 GREL05 - 16
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01 - 14
Sardar Tillius LIMA04 - 14
Pythia of Azël LIMG01
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03 - 14
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02 - 14
Royal standard-bearer LIPE04 - 16
The Chimera LIMA06 - 16
Mounted Bard of Alahan LIGM03 - 20
Shaka-Morkhai ORLV01 - 14
If you feel this is not enough, please make me a counter offer. Im willing to work through to a mutually-beneficial end on this. Its just others I have dealt with have been sourcing from a French site and did not have the models on them at the time, whcih i dicovered after paying ridiculous prices, so I hope you understand my caution.
Please let me know,
Cameron
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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uhm are your prices in euros or aud? if they are in euros i think we may come to some sort of agreement if they are in aud i think we probably won't i reckon rrp + 50% is ok for most of the stuff except for the titan dragon, which is as rare as hens teeth nowadays, for which i have a valuation at 400 GBP so ~ 670 AUD
let me know cheers tim
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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Hi Tim,
Get back to me with the list of items and your counter offer for each. Most people I have dealt with have not asked as much, but let's see what we can work out.
Cheers,
Cam
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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i'm noting down a complete list of my stuff atm, i'll send it to you once it's complete...
here's the rrp + 50% list (or in the case of limited eds rrp x 2)(in AUD)
Arkeon Sanath SCCH02 - 35
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01 - 22
Keratis warriors SCBO03 - is that the box? or the blister? i've got blisters - 25
Nefarius Clone SCBO04 - 88
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02 - 22
Black Wolf MVCR07 - 36
Asha Ruyar CDMA01 - 21
Titan Dragon of Aarklash CYTI01 - 670
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01 - 32
Flesh eaters (box) 1 DVBO01 - 22
Flesh eaters (box) 2 DVBO01 -22
Flesh eaters (box) 3 DVBO01 - 22
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01 - 26
Managarm the Traitoress DVCH03 - 66
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02 - 22
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02 - 22
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02 - 32
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01 - 22
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02 - 35
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01 - 20
Sardar Tillius LIMA04 - 25
Pythia of Azël LIMG01 - 20
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03 - 22
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02 - 25
Royal standard-bearer LIPE04 - 30
The Chimera LIMA06 - 88
Mounted Bard of Alahan LIGM03 - 35
Shaka-Morkhai ORLV01 - 66
cheers tim
Ps not sure which french site you mean, but i presume you mean ludik?
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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Hi Tim,
I just scored a Titan Dragon (NiB) for $300! Perhaps you can accomodate my counter offer.
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01 - 20
Nefarius Clone SCBO04 - 60
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02 - 20
Black Wolf MVCR07 - 35
Asha Ruyar CDMA01 - 20
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01 - 30
Flesh eaters (box) 1 DVBO01 - 20
Flesh eaters (box) 2 DVBO01 -20
Flesh eaters (box) 3 DVBO01 - 20
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01 - 24
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02 - 20
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02 - 20
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02 - 30
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01 - 20
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02 - 35
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01 - 20
Sardar Tillius LIMA04 - 25
Pythia of Azël LIMG01 - 20
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03 - 20
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02 - 25
Royal standard-bearer LIPE04 - 25
Mounted Bard of Alahan LIGM03 - 30
I have adjusted prices and removed items. Those items I removed I could not justify the purchase, but did not wish to insult you with the counter offer.
These prices I will agree to if:
The item is NiB
Undamaged - no scratches, broken bits
No sculpt errors
Im only going on what my mate said here and mainly cos I dont like to fix a sculpt or strip paint.
Please let me know a total, including postager to (removed for privacy.
Regards,
Cameron
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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Hi Mate
"I just scored a Titan Dragon (NiB) for $300! Perhaps you can accomodate my counter offer."
May i ask where? would be great if i could grab one, too
i'll check for you - i take it you want nibs with no breakages, correct?
if that is the case then i cannot do box sets, as i have opened all so that the contents could be checked...
i'll get back to you asap
cheers tim
Ps you are welcome to make counteroffers on all, but you are not going to get a 40€ chimera for 18 $ from me it's just not going to happen.
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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Hi Tim,
I have had feelers out for a while and the guy wanted cash. I offered and he accepted.
Of course I would not offer so low.
With the blisters, if they are NiB with no obvious damage thats fine, do not hassle yourself there. But for the open boxed sets, it would only be proper for all parts to be present and undamaged. Heck, I dont mind if you wanted to clean the parts for me
I dont mind if the shrinkwrap is off, I just wanted to know that all are present and accounted for.
Look forward to your response,
Cam
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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Hi Tim,
I have completed all my other trades and was wondering what you thought of the prices I offered?
Those I adjusted I did so, according to what the items are going for on Ebay and base dupon similar trades for other Rackham minis. I understand that one Rackham mini is not the same as another, which is why I specified the condition that I wish. As you would understand better than I the condition affects the value. However, as I plan to paint and display these for my own collection, I have also considered what they are worth to me.
If you wish to negotiate further on prices, please contact me and we can come to an agreement. There are some minis that I will need to change my offer on though, as I have either seen one cheaper or may need to remove them as I have picked one up from another trade over the last week and forgot to ammend my list I provided you with. These are:
Nefarius Clone SCBO04 - $30 - I have purchased one NiB for $30 already and the collector advised that I would be silly to pay more for it.
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01 - 20
Nefarius Clone SCBO04 - 30
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02 - 20
Black Wolf MVCR07 - 35
Asha Ruyar CDMA01 - 20
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01 - 30
Flesh eaters (box) 1 DVBO01 - 20
Flesh eaters (box) 2 DVBO01 -20
Flesh eaters (box) 3 DVBO01 - 20
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01 - 24
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02 - 20
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02 - 20
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02 - 30
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01 - 20
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02 - 35
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01 - 20
Sardar Tillius LIMA04 - 25
Pythia of Azël LIMG01 - 20
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03 - 20
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02 - 25
Royal standard-bearer LIPE04 - 25
Mounted Bard of Alahan LIGM03 - 30
Total - $529 + registered P&P to (removed for privacy).
I am happy to be flexible on this, but please understand that I am not up for paying 'collector' prices from Europe or USA.
Cheers,
Cam
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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i'll go through your list and will let you know asap, however you will not be getting stuff from me below rrp - e.g what i paid for them - as i'd be pissing on my own barbeque if i gave them to you for that.... i'd also advise you that rackham minis are getting increasingly hard to find and will most likely wind up being valued similar to Ilyad miniatures.
i'll need to check your prices and finish up my stocktake of my collection ( ~ 30-40 kg worth of rackham minis) which is going to take a few more days
i hope you can understand, do you want to give me your e-mail address so i can forward you the list if you are interested (once it's finished that is)
cheers tim
PS if i was aking collector prices i'd have started quite a bit higher as a few of these (sered, mira, black wolfen) can fetch 50 bucks or more...
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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Hi Tim,
I understand where you are coming from, but Im not after them for a profit motive.
My email address is: (removed for privacy)
At no time did I think I offered you below RRP. Please understand, I wish to get as many minis from you as I can afford, and hope that you can adjust accordingly for me.
I recently came upon a collector's mini, Sad Girl. I understand it is quite a collector item from Coolmini, I would be willing to trade it to you in order to relieve some price from the total if you wish.
Awaiting your response,
Cam
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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hi mate, i've already got one, but i'd probably take another one on anyways, how much would you want for her?
i'm not going to go discuss what is above or below rrp, or why it is or isn't, i'm sure we can work things out
i'll finish up my stocktake and let you know
cheers tim
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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Hi Tim,
She is out of her packaging, mainly cos I got her from a mate to use in a comp on a scenic base. Sort of a win since I got her for free, but she is a LE CoolMini, and such a hot sculpt. Maybe you can tell me what you think she is worth and simply discount it from the total once we work things out.
Look forward to your final list,
Cam
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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Hi Tim,
I have spoken to my 'Confrontation guru' mate and he said to offer you $60 for the Nefarius clone, as I have probably insulted you by offering less than the $36 AUD (depending upon exchange and local stores RRP) that it was sold for. Sorry for the insult, it was unintentional and I had seen one for $30 so assumed it was only worth this. Hope this doesnt reflect poorly on thye rest of our deal and that I can, hopefully, make a saving for the bundle once you have the final list to me.
Regards,
Cameron
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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hi mate, no offense was taken, i was just very puzzled where you got your stuff from, as the rackham store sold the nefarious clone for either 35 or 40 €, as such i can't and won't give it away for less than 20€... as i said no offense taken
anyways regarding sad girl, it's quite an awesome little sculpt isn't it
i'm not sure what to offer for her, i probably wouldn't be giving you quite as much as other people (because that would be my 2nd copy)
cheers tim
PS: almost finished the stocktake on the blisters (just missing drune stuff now) i'll start on the boxes....
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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Hi Tim,
All good then. Lets work out a final result tomorrow.
Good night,
Cameron
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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okeydoke, sorry for taking so long to get things sorted i have ready for sending and sale (all is as good as new other than Pythia who had a slight damage which has sice been fixed and primed over)
all other stuff is still in transit from around the world
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01 - 20 - NISB
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01 - 30 - NISB - French card
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01 - 20 - NISB - French card
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02 - 35 - NISB
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01 - 20 - MINT
Sardar Tillius LIMA04 - 25 - MINT
Pythia of Azël LIMG01 - 20 - Cleaned, Lightly Primed, No Cards, Left top corner of cape has been resculpted with GS
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03 - 20 MINT
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02 - 25 MINT
let me know if you want those (210 AUD takes all + free shipping)
cheers tim
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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Hi Tim,
What about the others? From this list I will take the following for $190 (this is without Pythia):
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01 - 20 - NISB
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01 - 30 - NISB - French card
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01 - 20 - NISB - French card
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02 - 35 - NISB
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01 - 20 - MINT
Sardar Tillius LIMA04 - 25 - MINT
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03 - 20 MINT
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02 - 25 MINT
I do not want the damaged Pythia. Also, you will need to distinguish between 'MINT' and NISB for me. WHat is the difference?
I would like to continue negotiation on:
Nefarius Clone SCBO04 - 30
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02 - 20
Black Wolf MVCR07 - 35
Asha Ruyar CDMA01 - 20
Flesh eaters (box) 1 DVBO01 - 20
Flesh eaters (box) 2 DVBO01 -20
Flesh eaters (box) 3 DVBO01 - 20
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01 - 24
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02 - 20
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02 - 20
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02 - 30
Please let me know,
Cam
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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well mint is bare metal without a blister but no damages
nib is new in blister/box
nisb is new in sealed blister/box
the lot price is 195 and shipping wo pithia (who is essentially only 10 bucks once you factor shipping, as i don't need her and don't like the miniature THAT much
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01 - 20 - NISB
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01 - 30 - NISB - French card
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01 - 20 - NISB - French card
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02 - 35 - NISB
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01 - 20 - MINT
Sardar Tillius LIMA04 - 25 - MINT
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03 - 20 MINT
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02 - 25 MINT
so you are looking at 195 excl shipping - 200 incl shipping
with these you will have to wait until i get them (iam shifting my entire collection to ausralia as most of it has been stashed in germany for the past 5 yeas as i thought i'd not get there withing 3 years 5 years ago....:
these three iam left only with my copies with no spares (it will take some serious persuading to let go of those):
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02 - 20 - this one is gone (better offer) - only one left
Black Wolf MVCR07 - 35 - so is this one (better offer) - only one left
Flesh eaters (box) 1 - 60 - box gone (better offer) - only one left
i have one here but that is assembled you said you wanted new or mint
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02 - 30 - no cards assembled, bare metal, no glue stains, cleaned (no mould lines etc)
Nefarius Clone SCBO04 - 70 one with spanish cards in transit from xxxx
Asha Ruyar CDMA01 - 20 - in transit from xxxx
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01 - 24 in transit from xxxx
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02 - 20 in transit from xxxx
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02 - 20 in transit from xxxx
all the in transit ones i can send to you once i get them, but untill i get paid for them i consider them fair game for anyone who makes me an offer, if you want all the in transit stuff and pay me now i'll give it to you for 150 including shipping, if you want all in transit + all available + mira i'll give you all of them for 375 incl shipping
cheers tim
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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Hi Tim,
Since you sold them out from under me, I seem to have been gazumped.
I have reconsidered my stance on the pricing and will only buy the NSIB as MINT discqualifies any collector pricing you wish to apply to them.
Im only interested in paying for those which I can receive and not those in transit. In fact, now that I think on it, what is to stop you taking my funds and selling the minis to someone else.
I withdraw all interest and would rather pay for items I am guaranteed to receive.
Thanks for wasting my time with your rudeness and lack of etiquette.
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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Dear Cameron,
I gave you a price you sent a lower counteroffer, as such i was under the impression that you couldnor would not pay my asking prices, collectors prices are higher, once i have sold an item i have sold it and will not go back on that, however whilst iam still negotiating i do not guarntee items, once you hear something like yes we have a deal or yes that will be fine from me then those items are yours, i also see myself bound by my offers untill you either decline of submit a counteroffer. if you wish to buy at colectors pricing that is fine by me you will only recieve nisb or nib for box sets from me.
there is nothing to stop me from taking your money and doing a runner, other than that it is plain wrong, illegal and something that i will not ever do, my nick "paintrbushturkey" is in use on countless trading sites and has yet to have a negative to be filed against it (other than 1 negtive ebay reference (more than 12 moths ago) where shipping took 7 days...(i have no idea why this would deserve a neg but well...))
i will doublecheck with my uncle in germany and see if he has seen another devourer box set tirz tiger or black wolf and will let you know. but as of now iam not aware of this, but then i do not know for sure.
iam not sure what i have done to offend you, simply offering me 20 bucks for an item does not guarantee it for you (however if i offer you an item for 20 bucks and you accpt that offer ot does), if you would rather offer me 50$ for the tiger 120$ for the devourer box and 55$ for the black wolfen, which are what collectors prices are by the way, then i think you can have my spare copies (However i was under the impression that you were not willing to spend this much and as such sold them to Thomas rather than to you)
as i have said i guarantee that you will recieve any items you pay for in the condition that i described them in, if you haven't paid for them or we have not agreed to a price then they are fair game to anyone who offers me more for them.
Iam sorry to have given offense it was not intended, i think perhaps you should calm down and consider your choice of words
cheers tim
PS: if you do not wish to buy miniatures from me then that is okay with you, however i will not stand accused of dishonesty or fraudulent behaviour, if that was the intent of your prior e-mail then i respectfully suggest you look to get the miniatures you are after elsewhere as i do not wish to deal with persons that do not trust me or accuse me of such.
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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Tim,
Between the time you offered the minis and your last pm, the condition of the minis that we negotiated on changed from NiB to 'MINT', thus could not justify the prices you asked.
My counter offers were justified, as most of the stuff you listed was not readily available to you, it was still overseas. Why would I pay you now and then have to wait weeks for the items? Your prices are mroe than even Ludiks and Ebay for the items you are selling, thus I offered lower prices.
You did not negotiate and after reporting your behaviour to a Mod and others on my friends list, I received the same response. You are apparently not known for positive attitude on these forums and I have warned others from trading with you. You are not fair and very greedy.
I will not offer the excuse to you that you are ignorant of this or even have poor english. You are not a good human being.
I will not conduct any trades with you and hope that noone else is a sucker to your hollow lies.
Cameron
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Inbox
Hi,
I have been attempting to complete my Rackham Confrontation collection for a while and one of my friends said you might have some to move.
If you, or anyone you know, could help me with this, I am willing to pay reasonably or trade for other OOP miniatures.
Please let me know,
Cameron
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
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yeah i got a couple of doubles and should be recieving about two to threehundred blisters sometime soon, so i guess i have quite a few minis to spare
what are you after?cheers tim
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Hi Tim.
The list is big... but only what is NECESSARY to regain the dreams shattered by Rackham's poor business plan...
ALCHEMISTS OF DIRZ:
Arkeon Sanath SCCH02
Centurus Clone 1 SCVC01
Centurus Clone 2 SCVC02
Lady Claudia Nessalith SCFI02
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01
Kayl Kartan SCMA01
Keratis warriors SCBO03
Dasyatis Clone SCCR04
Dasyatis Clone 02 SCCR05
Nefarius Clone SCBO04
Scorpion Neuromancer SCSP06
Razheem the Insane SCLV01
Salias Yesod SCAV01
Sethin SCCH04
Sykho Volesterus SCFI01
Tarascus SCTI01
Tiger of Dirz 1 SCCR01
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02
Tiger of Dirz 3 SCCR03
Vargas Metatron SCCH01
Ysis the Viper SCHE02
Centurus clones 1 SCEL06
Centurus clones 2 SCEL07
LIMBO OF ARCHERON:
Asura de Sarlath MVMA03
Black Wolf MVCR07
Cerberus of Achéron MVCR06
The Bogeyman MVFI01
The Gorgon MVAV02
Ejhin de Vanth MVFI02
Archeronnn Emmissary MVVC02
Spectre of Acheron MVSP03
Kaïn the Scourge MVCH06
CADWALLON:
Asha Ruyar CDMA01
Souffree-toile CDMG01
CYNWALL:
Cynwäll Dragon CYBO01
Sÿlann, khidarÿm champion CYCH04
Nelphaëll CYCH02
Maelyn, Cynwall Initiate CYMA02
Galhyan, Cynwäll Heliast CYMA01
Equanimous warrior CYMG01
Titan Dragon of Aarklash CYTI01
Cynwäll Synchronïme CYGM01
Cynwäll Nova 2 CYFR04
Cynwäll Nova 1 CYFR03
Cynwäll Construct Warriors CYFR01
DAIKINEE:
Kurujaï, Daïkinee archer DACH05
Mandigorn warrior DACR01
Numaë, daïkinee guardian DACH06
Dream warrior DAGM01
DEVOURERS:
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01
Flesh eaters (box) 1 DVBO01
Flesh eaters (box) 2 DVBO01
Flesh eaters (box) 3 DVBO01
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01
Managarm the Traitoress DVCH03
Master of Carnage DVGM01
GRIFFONS OF AKYYLANIE:
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02
Kyrus the Somber GRCH08
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02
Shanys the Shadow GRCH03
Templars of the Inquisition GREL02
Griffin Thallions 1 GREL04
Griffin Thallions 2 GREL05
KELTS of DRUNE CLAN:
Ardokath DRFI01
Balkròn DRCH04
Damrahl, Drune Wyrd DRMA02
Drune Raiders DRBO01
Hound of Scathâch DRCR01
Morgwen the Bloody DRCH03
Wandyr DRHE01
Enoch the Elementalist BAMA02
Kelen the Thirteenth Voice BAAV02
Koren the Chosen One BACH05
ALAHAN LIONS:
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01
Aldenyss the Quiet LIHE03
YSHAELLE LISP04
Sardar Tillius LIMA04
Sardar the Pure LIMA01
Pythia of Azël LIMG01
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02
Royal standard-bearer LIPE04
The Red Lionness LIHE01
Dragan of Orianthe LICH03
The Red Lionness LIHE02
Danil the Valiant LICH06
The Chimera LIMA06
Mounted Bard of Alahan LIGM03
OPHIDIANS:
Bregan, Apostate of the Darkness OPCH03
Apostates of Darkness 1 OPBO01
Apostates of Darkness 3 OPBO01
OTHER:
Alyena SCSP04
Royal Guard Statue ACVC01
ORCS OF BRAN-O'KOR:
Shaka-Morkhai ORLV01
Please let me know what you have, I have made some fair deals with some folk locally and have only had trouble finding these few.
Cheers,
Cameron
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Sent messages
I believe i have doubles of the following: -what would you offer for each blister/box just write it behind the mini in question and i'll say yay or nay?
Arkeon Sanath SCCH02
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01
Keratis warriors SCBO03 - is that the box? or the blister? i've got blisters
Nefarius Clone SCBO04
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02
Black Wolf MVCR07
Asha Ruyar CDMA01
Titan Dragon of Aarklash CYTI01
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01
Flesh eaters (box) 1 DVBO01
Flesh eaters (box) 2 DVBO01
Flesh eaters (box) 3 DVBO01
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01
Managarm the Traitoress DVCH03
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02
Griffin Thallions 1 GREL04
Griffin Thallions 2 GREL05
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01
Sardar Tillius LIMA04
Pythia of Azël LIMG01
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02
Royal standard-bearer LIPE04
The Chimera LIMA06
Mounted Bard of Alahan LIGM03
Shaka-Morkhai ORLV01
cheers tim
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Inbox
Hi Tim,
Going off the RoL price scheme, I would offer the following:
Arkeon Sanath SCCH02 - 14
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01 - 14
Keratis warriors SCBO03 - is that the box? or the blister? i've got blisters - 16
Nefarius Clone SCBO04 - 45
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02 - 12
Black Wolf MVCR07 - 14
Asha Ruyar CDMA01 - 14
Titan Dragon of Aarklash CYTI01 - 120
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01 - 14
Flesh eaters (box) 1 DVBO01 - 16
Flesh eaters (box) 2 DVBO01 -16
Flesh eaters (box) 3 DVBO01 - 16
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01 - 16
Managarm the Traitoress DVCH03 - 20
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02 - 16
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02 - 20
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02 - 14
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01 - 20
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02 - 14
Griffin Thallions 1 GREL04 - 16
Griffin Thallions 2 GREL05 - 16
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01 - 14
Sardar Tillius LIMA04 - 14
Pythia of Azël LIMG01
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03 - 14
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02 - 14
Royal standard-bearer LIPE04 - 16
The Chimera LIMA06 - 16
Mounted Bard of Alahan LIGM03 - 20
Shaka-Morkhai ORLV01 - 14
If you feel this is not enough, please make me a counter offer. Im willing to work through to a mutually-beneficial end on this. Its just others I have dealt with have been sourcing from a French site and did not have the models on them at the time, whcih i dicovered after paying ridiculous prices, so I hope you understand my caution.
Please let me know,
Cameron
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Sent messages
uhm are your prices in euros or aud? if they are in euros i think we may come to some sort of agreement if they are in aud i think we probably won't i reckon rrp + 50% is ok for most of the stuff except for the titan dragon, which is as rare as hens teeth nowadays, for which i have a valuation at 400 GBP so ~ 670 AUD
let me know cheers tim
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Inbox
Hi Tim,
Get back to me with the list of items and your counter offer for each. Most people I have dealt with have not asked as much, but let's see what we can work out.
Cheers,
Cam
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Sent messages
i'm noting down a complete list of my stuff atm, i'll send it to you once it's complete...
here's the rrp + 50% list (or in the case of limited eds rrp x 2)(in AUD)
Arkeon Sanath SCCH02 - 35
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01 - 22
Keratis warriors SCBO03 - is that the box? or the blister? i've got blisters - 25
Nefarius Clone SCBO04 - 88
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02 - 22
Black Wolf MVCR07 - 36
Asha Ruyar CDMA01 - 21
Titan Dragon of Aarklash CYTI01 - 670
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01 - 32
Flesh eaters (box) 1 DVBO01 - 22
Flesh eaters (box) 2 DVBO01 -22
Flesh eaters (box) 3 DVBO01 - 22
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01 - 26
Managarm the Traitoress DVCH03 - 66
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02 - 22
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02 - 22
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02 - 32
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01 - 22
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02 - 35
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01 - 20
Sardar Tillius LIMA04 - 25
Pythia of Azël LIMG01 - 20
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03 - 22
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02 - 25
Royal standard-bearer LIPE04 - 30
The Chimera LIMA06 - 88
Mounted Bard of Alahan LIGM03 - 35
Shaka-Morkhai ORLV01 - 66
cheers tim
Ps not sure which french site you mean, but i presume you mean ludik?
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Inbox
Hi Tim,
I just scored a Titan Dragon (NiB) for $300! Perhaps you can accomodate my counter offer.
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01 - 20
Nefarius Clone SCBO04 - 60
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02 - 20
Black Wolf MVCR07 - 35
Asha Ruyar CDMA01 - 20
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01 - 30
Flesh eaters (box) 1 DVBO01 - 20
Flesh eaters (box) 2 DVBO01 -20
Flesh eaters (box) 3 DVBO01 - 20
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01 - 24
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02 - 20
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02 - 20
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02 - 30
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01 - 20
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02 - 35
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01 - 20
Sardar Tillius LIMA04 - 25
Pythia of Azël LIMG01 - 20
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03 - 20
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02 - 25
Royal standard-bearer LIPE04 - 25
Mounted Bard of Alahan LIGM03 - 30
I have adjusted prices and removed items. Those items I removed I could not justify the purchase, but did not wish to insult you with the counter offer.
These prices I will agree to if:
The item is NiB
Undamaged - no scratches, broken bits
No sculpt errors
Im only going on what my mate said here and mainly cos I dont like to fix a sculpt or strip paint.
Please let me know a total, including postager to (removed for privacy.
Regards,
Cameron
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Sent messages
Hi Mate
"I just scored a Titan Dragon (NiB) for $300! Perhaps you can accomodate my counter offer."
May i ask where? would be great if i could grab one, too
i'll check for you - i take it you want nibs with no breakages, correct?
if that is the case then i cannot do box sets, as i have opened all so that the contents could be checked...
i'll get back to you asap
cheers tim
Ps you are welcome to make counteroffers on all, but you are not going to get a 40€ chimera for 18 $ from me
it's just not going to happen.--------------------------------------------------
Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Inbox
Hi Tim,
I have had feelers out for a while and the guy wanted cash. I offered and he accepted.
Of course I would not offer so low.
With the blisters, if they are NiB with no obvious damage thats fine, do not hassle yourself there. But for the open boxed sets, it would only be proper for all parts to be present and undamaged. Heck, I dont mind if you wanted to clean the parts for me
I dont mind if the shrinkwrap is off, I just wanted to know that all are present and accounted for.Look forward to your response,
Cam
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Inbox
Hi Tim,
I have completed all my other trades and was wondering what you thought of the prices I offered?
Those I adjusted I did so, according to what the items are going for on Ebay and base dupon similar trades for other Rackham minis. I understand that one Rackham mini is not the same as another, which is why I specified the condition that I wish. As you would understand better than I the condition affects the value. However, as I plan to paint and display these for my own collection, I have also considered what they are worth to me.
If you wish to negotiate further on prices, please contact me and we can come to an agreement. There are some minis that I will need to change my offer on though, as I have either seen one cheaper or may need to remove them as I have picked one up from another trade over the last week and forgot to ammend my list I provided you with. These are:
Nefarius Clone SCBO04 - $30 - I have purchased one NiB for $30 already and the collector advised that I would be silly to pay more for it.
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01 - 20
Nefarius Clone SCBO04 - 30
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02 - 20
Black Wolf MVCR07 - 35
Asha Ruyar CDMA01 - 20
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01 - 30
Flesh eaters (box) 1 DVBO01 - 20
Flesh eaters (box) 2 DVBO01 -20
Flesh eaters (box) 3 DVBO01 - 20
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01 - 24
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02 - 20
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02 - 20
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02 - 30
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01 - 20
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02 - 35
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01 - 20
Sardar Tillius LIMA04 - 25
Pythia of Azël LIMG01 - 20
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03 - 20
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02 - 25
Royal standard-bearer LIPE04 - 25
Mounted Bard of Alahan LIGM03 - 30
Total - $529 + registered P&P to (removed for privacy).
I am happy to be flexible on this, but please understand that I am not up for paying 'collector' prices from Europe or USA.
Cheers,
Cam
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Sent messages
i'll go through your list and will let you know asap, however you will not be getting stuff from me below rrp - e.g what i paid for them - as i'd be pissing on my own barbeque if i gave them to you for that.... i'd also advise you that rackham minis are getting increasingly hard to find and will most likely wind up being valued similar to Ilyad miniatures.
i'll need to check your prices and finish up my stocktake of my collection ( ~ 30-40 kg worth of rackham minis) which is going to take a few more days
i hope you can understand, do you want to give me your e-mail address so i can forward you the list if you are interested (once it's finished that is)
cheers tim
PS if i was aking collector prices i'd have started quite a bit higher as a few of these (sered, mira, black wolfen) can fetch 50 bucks or more...
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Inbox
Hi Tim,
I understand where you are coming from, but Im not after them for a profit motive.
My email address is: (removed for privacy)
At no time did I think I offered you below RRP. Please understand, I wish to get as many minis from you as I can afford, and hope that you can adjust accordingly for me.
I recently came upon a collector's mini, Sad Girl. I understand it is quite a collector item from Coolmini, I would be willing to trade it to you in order to relieve some price from the total if you wish.
Awaiting your response,
Cam
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Sent messages
hi mate, i've already got one
, but i'd probably take another one on anyways, how much would you want for her?i'm not going to go discuss what is above or below rrp, or why it is or isn't, i'm sure we can work things out
i'll finish up my stocktake and let you know
cheers tim
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Inbox
Hi Tim,
She is out of her packaging, mainly cos I got her from a mate to use in a comp on a scenic base. Sort of a win since I got her for free, but she is a LE CoolMini, and such a hot sculpt. Maybe you can tell me what you think she is worth and simply discount it from the total once we work things out.
Look forward to your final list,
Cam
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Inbox
Hi Tim,
I have spoken to my 'Confrontation guru' mate and he said to offer you $60 for the Nefarius clone, as I have probably insulted you by offering less than the $36 AUD (depending upon exchange and local stores RRP) that it was sold for. Sorry for the insult, it was unintentional and I had seen one for $30 so assumed it was only worth this. Hope this doesnt reflect poorly on thye rest of our deal and that I can, hopefully, make a saving for the bundle once you have the final list to me.
Regards,
Cameron
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Sent messages
hi mate, no offense was taken, i was just very puzzled where you got your stuff from, as the rackham store sold the nefarious clone for either 35 or 40 €, as such i can't and won't give it away for less than 20€
... as i said no offense takenanyways regarding sad girl, it's quite an awesome little sculpt isn't it
i'm not sure what to offer for her, i probably wouldn't be giving you quite as much as other people (because that would be my 2nd copy)
cheers tim
PS: almost finished the stocktake on the blisters (just missing drune stuff now) i'll start on the boxes....
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Inbox
Hi Tim,
All good then. Lets work out a final result tomorrow.
Good night,
Cameron
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Sent messages
okeydoke, sorry for taking so long to get things sorted i have ready for sending and sale (all is as good as new other than Pythia who had a slight damage which has sice been fixed and primed over)
all other stuff is still in transit from around the world
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01 - 20 - NISB
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01 - 30 - NISB - French card
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01 - 20 - NISB - French card
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02 - 35 - NISB
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01 - 20 - MINT
Sardar Tillius LIMA04 - 25 - MINT
Pythia of Azël LIMG01 - 20 - Cleaned, Lightly Primed, No Cards, Left top corner of cape has been resculpted with GS
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03 - 20 MINT
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02 - 25 MINT
let me know if you want those (210 AUD takes all + free shipping)
cheers tim
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Inbox
Hi Tim,
What about the others? From this list I will take the following for $190 (this is without Pythia):
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01 - 20 - NISB
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01 - 30 - NISB - French card
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01 - 20 - NISB - French card
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02 - 35 - NISB
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01 - 20 - MINT
Sardar Tillius LIMA04 - 25 - MINT
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03 - 20 MINT
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02 - 25 MINT
I do not want the damaged Pythia. Also, you will need to distinguish between 'MINT' and NISB for me. WHat is the difference?
I would like to continue negotiation on:
Nefarius Clone SCBO04 - 30
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02 - 20
Black Wolf MVCR07 - 35
Asha Ruyar CDMA01 - 20
Flesh eaters (box) 1 DVBO01 - 20
Flesh eaters (box) 2 DVBO01 -20
Flesh eaters (box) 3 DVBO01 - 20
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01 - 24
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02 - 20
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02 - 20
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02 - 30
Please let me know,
Cam
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Sent messages
well mint is bare metal without a blister but no damages
nib is new in blister/box
nisb is new in sealed blister/box
the lot price is 195 and shipping wo pithia (who is essentially only 10 bucks once you factor shipping, as i don't need her and don't like the miniature THAT much
Cypher Lukhan SCHE01 - 20 - NISB
Bysra the Black Shaman DVMA01 - 30 - NISB - French card
The Priestess of Steel GRFI01 - 20 - NISB - French card
Sered, Templar Commander GRFI02 - 35 - NISB
Alahel the Messenger LIAV01 - 20 - MINT
Sardar Tillius LIMA04 - 25 - MINT
Migaïl the Selenite LIMA03 - 20 MINT
Meliador the Celestial LIMA02 - 25 MINT
so you are looking at 195 excl shipping - 200 incl shipping
with these you will have to wait until i get them (iam shifting my entire collection to ausralia as most of it has been stashed in germany for the past 5 yeas as i thought i'd not get there withing 3 years 5 years ago....:
these three iam left only with my copies with no spares (it will take some serious persuading to let go of those):
Tiger of Dirz 2 SCCR02 - 20 - this one is gone (better offer) - only one left
Black Wolf MVCR07 - 35 - so is this one (better offer) - only one left
Flesh eaters (box) 1 - 60 - box gone (better offer) - only one left
i have one here but that is assembled you said you wanted new or mint
Mirà the Reckless GRAV02 - 30 - no cards assembled, bare metal, no glue stains, cleaned (no mould lines etc)
Nefarius Clone SCBO04 - 70 one with spanish cards in transit from xxxx
Asha Ruyar CDMA01 - 20 - in transit from xxxx
Eclipsante 1 DVSP01 - 24 in transit from xxxx
Griffin Exorcist GRSP02 - 20 in transit from xxxx
Melkion the Flaming GRMA02 - 20 in transit from xxxx
all the in transit ones i can send to you once i get them, but untill i get paid for them i consider them fair game for anyone who makes me an offer
, if you want all the in transit stuff and pay me now i'll give it to you for 150 including shipping, if you want all in transit + all available + mira i'll give you all of them for 375 incl shippingcheers tim
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Inbox
Hi Tim,
Since you sold them out from under me, I seem to have been gazumped.
I have reconsidered my stance on the pricing and will only buy the NSIB as MINT discqualifies any collector pricing you wish to apply to them.
Im only interested in paying for those which I can receive and not those in transit. In fact, now that I think on it, what is to stop you taking my funds and selling the minis to someone else.
I withdraw all interest and would rather pay for items I am guaranteed to receive.
Thanks for wasting my time with your rudeness and lack of etiquette.
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Paintbrushturkey
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Sent messages
Dear Cameron,
I gave you a price you sent a lower counteroffer, as such i was under the impression that you couldnor would not pay my asking prices, collectors prices are higher, once i have sold an item i have sold it and will not go back on that, however whilst iam still negotiating i do not guarntee items, once you hear something like yes we have a deal or yes that will be fine from me then those items are yours, i also see myself bound by my offers untill you either decline of submit a counteroffer. if you wish to buy at colectors pricing that is fine by me
you will only recieve nisb or nib for box sets from me.there is nothing to stop me from taking your money and doing a runner, other than that it is plain wrong, illegal and something that i will not ever do, my nick "paintrbushturkey" is in use on countless trading sites and has yet to have a negative to be filed against it (other than 1 negtive ebay reference (more than 12 moths ago) where shipping took 7 days...(i have no idea why this would deserve a neg but well...))
i will doublecheck with my uncle in germany and see if he has seen another devourer box set tirz tiger or black wolf and will let you know. but as of now iam not aware of this, but then i do not know for sure.
iam not sure what i have done to offend you, simply offering me 20 bucks for an item does not guarantee it for you (however if i offer you an item for 20 bucks and you accpt that offer ot does), if you would rather offer me 50$ for the tiger 120$ for the devourer box and 55$ for the black wolfen, which are what collectors prices are by the way, then i think you can have my spare copies
(However i was under the impression that you were not willing to spend this much and as such sold them to Thomas rather than to you)as i have said i guarantee that you will recieve any items you pay for in the condition that i described them in, if you haven't paid for them or we have not agreed to a price then they are fair game to anyone who offers me more for them.
Iam sorry to have given offense it was not intended, i think perhaps you should calm down and consider your choice of words
cheers tim
PS: if you do not wish to buy miniatures from me then that is okay with you, however i will not stand accused of dishonesty or fraudulent behaviour, if that was the intent of your prior e-mail then i respectfully suggest you look to get the miniatures you are after elsewhere as i do not wish to deal with persons that do not trust me or accuse me of such.
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Cameron
Message subject: Re: Rackham collections
Folder: Inbox
Tim,
Between the time you offered the minis and your last pm, the condition of the minis that we negotiated on changed from NiB to 'MINT', thus could not justify the prices you asked.
My counter offers were justified, as most of the stuff you listed was not readily available to you, it was still overseas. Why would I pay you now and then have to wait weeks for the items? Your prices are mroe than even Ludiks and Ebay for the items you are selling, thus I offered lower prices.
You did not negotiate and after reporting your behaviour to a Mod and others on my friends list, I received the same response. You are apparently not known for positive attitude on these forums and I have warned others from trading with you. You are not fair and very greedy.
I will not offer the excuse to you that you are ignorant of this or even have poor english. You are not a good human being.
I will not conduct any trades with you and hope that noone else is a sucker to your hollow lies.
Cameron
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