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Hey Karl:Adunaphel wrote:I still don't understand all this "strategy" talk. It sounds a little shifty. I just came on here a long time ago (first as Kaz and now as Adunaphel) and traded...
Karl
Looking back and re-reading, I see that I misinterpreted your intent. I apologize.MagickalMemories wrote:Sorry, man, but I don't think it's fair to be like that to me.
OK, that's possible. I seem to recall it having been suggested, perhaps rhetorically.MagickalMemories wrote:Honestly, you're the only one I recall saying that this was a recommended ref-building strategy.
I guess we just disagree on the 20-30 ratings. 10 trades doesn't seem like much to me. I don't really think people have much of a track record until they hit 40-50...MagickalMemories wrote:With the commonality of "lower rating ships first," someone with a 30 could do a LOT of damage.JohnHwangBT wrote:On Btown, a 20-30 rating is pretty meaningless unless you're a total n00b. Now if he's going to give away 50+ bitz or models to get a 100 rating, I'd be pretty impressed. That's like $200 in shipping alone, not counting the bitz / models. That is a *lot* of up-front money to throw away if you're going to run a scam on Btown.
As for the up front expenditure of $200...
OK, a lot of non-stupid *people* on Btown performed a lot of stupid / gullible / foolish *actions*...MagickalMemories wrote:I'm not too fond of calling people stupid, myself. Actions are stupid. People rarely are.
Anyone with, say, a 10 or less, I can understand being scammed (to a degree). Once they hit 12, though (DOUBLE his rating), I'm thinking that the protocol should have come into play.
Something else, though... He made over $2000 on a $10 investment, per your estimations (and 3 trades). Look at what the guy with the $200 investment (above) could have done, presuming all the numbers stayed proportional. One more reason that PIF's shouldn't get ref's, IMO.
Eric
Well, I can't say that I disagree with that AT ALL. I have to admit my own surprise at the ratings of some of the individuals who were taken. I can see WHY they were taken... some people are just trusting, by nature.JohnHwangBT wrote:OK, a lot of non-stupid *people* on Btown performed a lot of stupid / gullible / foolish *actions*...MagickalMemories wrote:I'm not too fond of calling people stupid, myself. Actions are stupid. People rarely are.
Anyone with, say, a 10 or less, I can understand being scammed (to a degree). Once they hit 12, though (DOUBLE his rating), I'm thinking that the protocol should have come into play.
Something else, though... He made over $2000 on a $10 investment, per your estimations (and 3 trades). Look at what the guy with the $200 investment (above) could have done, presuming all the numbers stayed proportional. One more reason that PIF's shouldn't get ref's, IMO.
Eric
Eric - a lot of the victims have *much* higher ratings than 12. Some have triple-digit ratings - at that point, you should be driving, not the new kid.
Well, I don't know.JohnHwangBT wrote:It's harder to run a big scam, because you start talking about big numbers of people and large dollar volumes, so people should be paying more attention. Though you never know...
This sounds like a very good idea to put into that New Articles and Tutorials forum you wanted to start MM. hint hint...JohnHwangBT wrote:Eric:
That said, it wouldn't hurt to put up a scammer FAQ under info, to explain the various scams that have occurred on Btown, and why / how people got burned. At least, this way, it helps level the playing field by letting potential traders know what the risks are.
Oh, locust... You don't have to drop hints.locust wrote:This sounds like a very good idea to put into that New Articles and Tutorials forum you wanted to start MM. hint hint...JohnHwangBT wrote:Eric:
That said, it wouldn't hurt to put up a scammer FAQ under info, to explain the various scams that have occurred on Btown, and why / how people got burned. At least, this way, it helps level the playing field by letting potential traders know what the risks are.
If I see what someone else has written my brain gets ideas and I can come up with something that might have gotten overlooked. Plus the only scam that I've really been witness to, was the fiasco with the_trader. I know I've been a member for a long time, but I've had some long gaps in there. 