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Dreadclaw CSM question
Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:53 pm
by mardaddy601
Don't have the books, so have no idea - but want to know...
Are Khorne Berserkers allowed a Dreadclaw as a transport choice in IA?
I know in the new CSM codex they got moved from a TR to an EL choice, did this affect that transportation option?
Re: Dreadclaw CSM question
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:11 am
by 3eland
Says they can take a chaos rhino as a DT
Re: Dreadclaw CSM question
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:19 am
by kturock
It's part of the "SM are always better than CSM" line from GW.
CSM can't recall how to make or repair DP or DC, and can't create/charm/make a deamon into one.
Only SM can have DP spam. CSM can't even use one.
Re: Dreadclaw CSM question
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:26 am
by 3eland
kturock wrote:It's part of the "SM are always better than CSM" line from GW.
CSM can't recall how to make or repair DP or DC, and can't create/charm/make a deamon into one.
Only SM can have DP spam. CSM can't even use one.
+1
Re: Dreadclaw CSM question
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:47 am
by MagickalMemories
3eland wrote:Says they can take a chaos rhino as a DT
You're reading from the codex?
If that's the case, a Dreadclaw wouldn't be listed there, since it's a FW model only.
@OP - Sorry. I don't have the books, so I don't know.
Eric
Re: Dreadclaw CSM question
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:40 am
by 3eland
MagickalMemories wrote:3eland wrote:Says they can take a chaos rhino as a DT
You're reading from the codex?
If that's the case, a Dreadclaw wouldn't be listed there, since it's a FW model only.
@OP - Sorry. I don't have the books, so I don't know.
Eric
I didn't think if that, I'll check tomorrow unless someone finds it before me.
Re: Dreadclaw CSM question
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:46 am
by YoungWolf777
IA6 lists the following units can take a Dreadclaw:
- Chosen CSM
Chaos Terminators
Possessed CSM
Khorne Berserkers
Noise Marines
Plague Marines
Thousand Sons
CSM
Chaos Dreadnought
Since Chosen were always Elite, I don't see how the new codex would affect this. I didn't see any updated errata on the FW site.
Re: Dreadclaw CSM question
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:07 am
by mardaddy601
Thank you, YoungWolf.
I have been busily assembling & painting up an "all-previously-owned-and-unwanted-model" Extinction Angels CSM force (every model in the army was the result of here or on TMP, nothing LGS or online-store bought.) One of my EL choices being Khorne Berserkers.
GW canon says Extinction Angels are Planetary Invasion specialists; so part of my plans were to convert a couple drop pods into CSM Dreadclaws, one being for the Khorne. The other units will have CSM Rhino's and a Landraider for DP.
I have one converted Dreadclaw almost done, and wanted to be SURE it was allowed under IA before "adorning" it with Khornish icons.
Re: Dreadclaw CSM question
Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:35 pm
by 3eland
There ya go!
Sorry I pulled a dumb and only looked in the army book thinking it would tell me LOL.
Re: Dreadclaw CSM question
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:41 am
by MagickalMemories
3eland wrote:There ya go!
Sorry I pulled a dumb and only looked in the army book thinking it would tell me LOL.
Well, we can't all be the genius that Primarch Eric is. Can we?
: )
Eric
Re: Dreadclaw CSM question
Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 4:47 pm
by 3eland
MagickalMemories wrote:3eland wrote:There ya go!
Sorry I pulled a dumb and only looked in the army book thinking it would tell me LOL.
Well, we can't all be the genius that Primarch Eric is. Can we?
: )
Eric
It's true, Primarch Eric is a smart guy.
Re: Dreadclaw CSM question
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2013 2:32 am
by mardaddy601
Take it from the uninformed source that it is (a friend), he passed on a rumor last night to me that CSM Dreadclaws are soon to come out in plastic, with rules, and that the Khorne version - if it drifts to lands on an enemy unit, they take wounds instead of it or the unit moving aside.
Which would be a tad humorous, harkening back to olden days with rules like, "Ork transports can carry as many Orks as the player can pile on the model itself, but any that fall off in any movement phase die."
Re: Dreadclaw CSM question
Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:24 pm
by jul
with a lot of salt on this one.
the Dreadclaws have been put out of the FW catalogue for a while since the cast was not that good.
they mentioned in GD UK this year they were planning on getting a new one done, but the HH version will be first to be release. (pics are floating around)
on GW making a DC available in plastic, that won't happen before a wave of CSM models and priorities currently is getting every one up to date. the other caveat is that it would bring the CSM too close to the SM play style.
The last point is that the DC is really different from the Drop pod as it can move again during games and re-deploy units easily.
J