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super heavy hull points?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:58 pm
by kturock
Does anyone know what, if any, changes were made to FW and other heavy and super heavy vehicles were made for 6e.?
Since GW makes some super heavies, there has to be some rules or updates for them.
I can't see a shadowsword not being tougher, having more hp or higher AR, than a land raider.
Re: super heavy hull points?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:49 pm
by eman1_2
If you check the Forgeworld site, they ahve update documents for download.
Re: super heavy hull points?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:47 pm
by kturock
thanks. I checked when 6e came out, but haven't had chance since then. I fugured someone here would know. Someone has to be using them.
thanks again.
Re: super heavy hull points?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:51 pm
by eman1_2
Each structure point is worth 3 hull points. They also clarified degradation. Same document also has the gargantuan creatures rules. Easy enough to find on the site, and necessary to use them in 6E.
Re: super heavy hull points?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:27 pm
by MEDEVL
Any chance somebody could, you know, add a link for ease of use???
Re: super heavy hull points?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:28 pm
by eman1_2
Check the Forgeworld site.
Re: super heavy hull points?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:38 pm
by Bahamut_Dragonlord
PM'd you the link to the errata page.
Re: super heavy hull points?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:48 pm
by s_o_r_r_o_w
eman1_2 wrote:Really, how hard is the Forgeworld site to find?
Staff voice:
It probably takes as much time for someone familiar with the site to post a link as it took you to post that message.
If you don't want to help out--don't. But don't respond to requests for help with "Why don't you just do it yourself?"
Here is the link for everyone that did not get a PM:
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/News/Downloads.html
Re: super heavy hull points?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:43 pm
by MEDEVL
For the record I wasn't trying to be a pain in the butt. I had already checked the FW site and couldn't find the info. I did searches for "downloads" and "updates" to no avail. By clicking the link I see that it comes from a news section but I still don't see how you get there from the front page. I appreciated the link in that was PMed to me, so thanks for that and now I'm glad to see a link here in the thread for everyone to use. I'm glad to be able to try and add a Junka to my SpeedFreaks army so thanks guys!
Re: super heavy hull points?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:08 pm
by Bahamut_Dragonlord
Ya, I actually have all the erratas saved on my computer from the last time I found them, but it still took me a couple minutes to remember how I got to them. There is one sad little link on the front page... (as noted by the red box of justice)
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Sorry I didn't post the link in the thread, I know we have rules about links and things so didn't want to anger the management!
Re: super heavy hull points?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:39 pm
by MEDEVL
OMG!!!! Not to stray off topic but while reading through the various links I found that I can use the Allies rules with the Deff Dread Mob and my regular Ork Codex army! This solves o many of the problems I've been having fitting all of models into my army! This might actually get me to play a game of 40K! Sorry for the excitement but this is awesome for me!!
Re: super heavy hull points?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:56 pm
by eman1_2
I had thought about that, but the only problem I see is that the dreads, while very cool, still are not scoring units

Unless I missed something in the rules, deff dread mods don't make the dreads scoring. If they did, I would invest heavily in dreads.......
Re: super heavy hull points?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:23 pm
by MEDEVL
So if something is taken as a Troops choice is doesn't count as Troops??? That doesn't make sense to me. For instance Codex Orcs allows 1 unit of Nobz to be taken as Troops if you take a Warboss, so that Nobz unit wouldn't count as troops?? That kind of nukes the whole idea I had of SpeedFreaks if it's true. Half of my "Troops" are Warbikes units.
Re: super heavy hull points?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:24 pm
by eman1_2
6E specifically calls out that vehicles and swarms cannot be scoring units (unless you are playing Big guns Never Tire or The Scouring). So things like dreads and transports cannot claim objectives, even if they are troops choices.
Re: super heavy hull points?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:53 pm
by kturock
Well, with CSM, when you take a lord with a mark of 1 of the 4 dark gods, you can choose the respective elite unit as a troops choice. IE Lord with Mark of Nurgle, you can take Death Guard. The DG are now troops and therfore, scoring units.