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Heya guys, I have come into some miniatures again in trade, I am sure you have done that a time or two in the past yourselves. However, this time I was in complete control of what I was being traded... I have a very long time friend who wanted some stuff painted, and he told me he was not going to be able to pay in cash, so he wanted to brin some trade when he drove around to see family and friends this Christmas. He lives 1,300 miles away or so, but in truth just to see me he only drove about 300 miles across Kansas... which they should offer as prison sentences for minor offense imo. I am joking of course

Anyways, when he got to my house, he broke out the Sister's of Battle or SOB, and a large ziplock bag of very old pewter Space Marine stuff. I will have some pictures below as I list this. Sadly there are more arms missing than not. He said he has a bunch of arms back in GA, and will mail as many as he can once he gets home. This is funny to me in a sad way, because they are now, I can not do much with them. These were used as a form of payment for my services, but it looks like I will have to invest money to even be able to get any interest at all in them.

I have a Youtube channel and I could build a story around these and try to sell them, but I am not as what army exactly. I was looking at Deathwing, since I could make 15 or 16 of the Terminators into 2 or 3 squads of (troops), I would want to save what I believe are Rogue Trader models, and use the rest as either troops or elites. I have 4 Scratch Build wooden Drop Pods that I could add to the army as well. However, I would need to find the HQ choice that makes them Deathwing... so another model I need to buy/trade for.


Edited: I have edited where the photos were in my album, I can post the pictures again if we want, but the order they are posted will be different. Sorry.

Those all appear to be 2nd or 3rd Edition Marines.
Stuff of legends keeps scans of the old catalogs you can use to identify them. This is the 95/96 catalog, which should have all of those models:
http://solegends.com/citcat1995-6/cat19956p028-01.htm

None of the models you have are from Rogue Trader, and none have individual names. None of the models have any major value. From time to time you'll come across completists who just have to have a particular model for their collection, but they don't tend to pay more than $5-10 for a given model from that era.

Thanks for the website and info. Yeah I had them pegg'd with arms being worth 4 to 8 dollars on average, and the terminators probably a little lower since the new ones are so cool looking.

These guys are not RT, all of these are from late 2nd and early 3rd.

The SW guys are from the old army box deal.

For the right guy these may be worth a few dollars, for the Sw guys. Overall though, most guys have these guys in their bits box as they are not as nice as the new models. Maybe $10 for the lot less the apothecary and tech-marine. Libby was ugly when it was released.

Money would be in the Apothecary and tech-marine. I would say maybe $10-$15 each still nice models.

It seems to me that this collection has ADHD. heh It has some of this, and some of that... but nothing you can work with to make something.


Is there any where I can get the bits from this time, without being charged an army and a leg?

The Bits forum?

Eric

Sorry I'm so late to the party, Xoan.

The first model is a Space Marine sergeant with a power fist ("Space Marine Sergeant 1", part #010101103). If you bought the Ultramarines Tactical Squad that was released around the beginning of the Second Edition era, he came in that box, and was later available by himself in a blister. As there is no chapter-specific iconography sculpted onto the body, he makes a fine Blood Angel.

The second model is an armless Second Edition Librarian in Terminator Armour ("Terminator LIbrarian Body", part #010104101). There are different models from First Edition (including a plastic one from an expansion to Space Hulk) and some for later editions that are now available in Finecast.

The third model is a Space Wolf Blood Claw ("Space Wolf Blood Claw 1", part #0805/2). They used to be available in a boxed set of ten, and later as blisters of two models each. These were phased out when plastic multi-part Space Wolves became available for Third Edition.

The next model ... ah, one of my favourites! Blood Angels Death Company! This particular lad is part #0424/3 ("Blood Angels Death Company Trooper 1"). I converted one to be a veteran sergeant by sawing off his leg and giving him a bionic replacement sawed off from an old Epic Knight. They used to come in a box with nine troopers and a chaplain, then later sold as blisters of two models each.

Next is a Techmarine (70085/1) with a Servo-Arm (70085/3).

The next picture is blurry. It's obviously a Second Edition Devastator, but I think I can make out some flames embossed on the cuisses. Citadel sculpted some Legion of the Damned marines, including a couple with some wicked-looking heavy weapons (the heavy bolter has a skeleton atop it!), so this may be what that is, but I can't tell for sure.

The next model is another Blood Angel - "Blood Angels Death Company Trooper 2" (part #0424/4).

Then, another Space Wolf Blood Claw (part #805/4). If you're starting to think some of these models look alike, it's because they do. Many of the Blood Angel and Space Wolf models made during this time were simply the same Mk VI or Mk VII models for the regular marine range with added chapter iconography. Occasionally, they twisted the head in a slightly different direction, but it seemed pretty obvious to me what was what.

After that, a Second Edition Apothecary - part #70082/1 (like this guy). We Blood Angels players have to call them "Sanguinary Priests" or somesuch now.

At some point (Fourth Edition, maybe?) players were required to mount their Terminators on 40mm round bases. You can tell the sculpts from earlier editions because the legs are much closer together to make them fit in the slot of a 20mm base. Both of these ladz are Second Edition Terminators (0441/3 and 70157/2). The sculpts were different from the First Edition ones - most notably in the robustness of the limbs and shoulder pauldrons, but also the addition of purity seals.

The next model is a Chaos Space Marine Terminator (70311/1) equipped with a heavy flamer (70312/22) and power mace (70311/20). The heads were separate bitz because they incorporated things like spikes and horns that made them difficult to cast as one piece. Depending on which arms you selected, some heads might fit better on some bodies than others. The backs also had slots where you were to insert rows of pointy bitz to use as trophy racks!

The last model is a generic Chaos Space Marine. Looks like part #70306/6.

Thanks a lot, You gave a very detailed and even had pictures of the different options from time. That is totally awesome, I know that took a while to do, so thank you for putting the effort in on that.

I seem to have more Space Wolves than I thought. I thought those guys were normal joe marines. I might have enough for a third unit in my 13th Co army that I am currently painting. These are all models from 2nd and 3rd ed painted up with newer lighter color of SW, but with all of the older models. I am short some arms and what not here and there, so I am adding bitz of chaos models to show their time in the warp. I have a total of 7 Wulfen models left after I sold some a few days ago, and the one for the scouts is all painted up and look bestial.

Thanks again
Clark

Xoan wrote:Thanks a lot, You gave a very detailed and even had pictures of the different options from time. That is totally awesome, I know that took a while to do, so thank you for putting the effort in on that.

You're welcome. I love collecting the old Space Marines. I've been at it for quite some time.

Xoan wrote:I seem to have more Space Wolves than I thought. I thought those guys were normal joe marines.

Of all the loyalist chapters, Space Wolves seemed to get the best deal as far as miniature variety in second edition. Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Ultramarines, and Space Wolves all got some nice character sculpts, and a lot of the models from that period probably would have looked good in any such army, but the Space Wolves got their own dreadnought, terminators (Wolf Guard), assault marines (Blood Claws), tactical marines (Grey Hunters), veterans (Wolf Guard in powered armour), and devastator squad (Long Fangs), plus special chapter-specific scout sergeants to lead squads of generic "mohawk" scouts into battle.

Blood Angels got the Death Company and the Dark Angels got Deathwing Terminators, but aside from that, chapter-specific stuff was limited to a couple of sergeants and the aforementioned character models. Even the Blood Angel and Dark Angel dreadnoughts from that period show little variation (modified sarcophagi and banner pole) from the generic model.

Xoan wrote:I might have enough for a third unit in my 13th Co army that I am currently painting. These are all models from 2nd and 3rd ed painted up with newer lighter color of SW, but with all of the older models. I am short some arms and what not here and there, so I am adding bitz of chaos models to show their time in the warp. I have a total of 7 Wulfen models left after I sold some a few days ago, and the one for the scouts is all painted up and look bestial.

You should share some pictures when you get a chance. I'm sure we'd all enjoy your work!

This unit is one of the chapter specific group of models that you were talking about. I did not own these through their whole life, and there is some damage done to them in the past, but I treat all of that as battle scars.

This unit is also 90% done it needs some corrections around the eyes, and the white needs to be shaded still in some cases


This Wulfen had his chain sword broken off, so I cut the hilt off the bottom, and bent his finger to point more, and now he is the most aware scout of the lot. Also one of the Plasma Pistol guys had his CC arm broke off some were over the years, and now I have embraced it as a missing limb from a prior war. Another guy is missing his CC weapon so I gave him a CSM Chain Sword, it looks a little big for him, but I like it all the same.

In other groups of miniatures many of them are missing backpacks, shoulder pads, and what not. I am replacing them all with CSM bitz, and I have some missing arms, and I am debating on added Beastmen arms, but replacing their weapons with proper SW or CSM weapons so it doesn't stand out too much.

The next thing I am going to paint is 3 SW Terminators with Storm Shields and Thunder Hammers.

I am calling this my 13th Co Salvage Mission btw. lol I got it with the idea that once I had it painted maybe someone would want to buy it... but I do not see this army being sold now days. I am starting to really like this army, and I do not like SM armies in general so this is really weird.


Anyways, I hope you like it.
Clark

Looks good, Xoan. I went through your Photobucket. It looks like you have a lot of painting left to do... but isn't that the fate of all us GW gamers? Warhammer 40,000 isn't really a game, so much as it's a painting hobby (obsession?) that includes optional rules for miniatures combat.

I have an unopened bag of GW's static grass, and I've never used it. I either flock my bases or (in the distant past) painted green over some coarse modeling sand to look like grass. Apparently my Blood Angels Third Company is pretty picky, and only fights battles on perfectly manicured glof courses. I like how it turns out on yours. Maybe when I get back to painting, I'll open up that bag and try it out.

I think the funniest mistake I have ever had on basing mats was with the use of some grits as a light weight option that was not sand. It was fine until I went to the shelf and saw a bunch of larva crawling on my DnD miniatures probably 15 years or so ago. lol I had it as wood chips for my Halfling NPCs.


As far as painting goes, I have so many armies to paint beyond my 13th Co it is not even funny, and GW is to blame for the most part. heh