Thoughts on Cypher & Fallen?

[spiralingcadaver]

So, I've finished a test mini for my Fallen unit (below), but don't how I should equip the unit... thoughts? Plasma guns seemed thematic, but it seems like he'd be best with assault or pistol weapons...

[3eland]

Oh that is cool! Warrior body with marine bits. Classy! I have no clue what Marine that is or what he can equip other than he's a Fallen (I play 'Nids mostly and on occasion the wife's grey Knights) but I just had to comment on that paint job/conversion!

Go with Bolters! (Then my warriors can still get to you and eat you )

[NuWishA]

Cypher is sexy, the Fallen data slate is kinda cool, kinda meh. They all get to infiltrate. I've been doing a Fallen Angels/Pre-heresy army for awhile. I am just happy to have rules for Cypher. He is expensive but interesting, just don't get him killed by any Dark Angels.

[NuWishA]

Oh, sorry. Plasma is good for long ranged anti-marine fire, though infiltrating melta guns work well too.

[spiralingcadaver]

3eland, thanks! Yeah, he'd been sitting around for some time before I finally decided he'd be a Fallen.

NuWishA, cool, thanks for the tips. Yeah, haven't gotten the datasheet yet, all I know is approximate stats/rules for Cypher (looks pretty strong) and that he can take some variant on Infiltrating Chosen- I know Chosen aren't awesome, but thought it would be fun to do a squad to go with him.

Yeah, felt it would be a toss-up between melta and plasma, think I'll settle on a champ with a power weapon (just so Cypher isn't the only threat if/when they're in melee) and a few magnetized special weapon gunners so I don't need to choose

[NuWishA]

His data slate is actually pretty good. It has lots of story about him, rules to use him alone (every human army but DA can take him, including CSM), and a formation that consists of him and 1-3 squads of CSM Chosen. The Chosen can't take any marks or gifts or rhinos, but they get infiltrate and ATSKNF.

So you could (points willing) have 15 guys with plasma guns infiltrated and Cypher running around giggling and shooting people in the face.

[spiralingcadaver]

Cool, didn't know about the ATSKNF bit. Not surprising they couldn't take marks (esp. since none of the unaffiliated original legions except Black Legion could), a little disappointed about the lack of transports, but hopefully infiltrate can make up for that.

And... wow... yeah. While super-expensive, that sounds like silly fun. I'll plan on just 10 that could be 2 smaller squads or one regular... unless I get kind of out of control with the Fallen theme.