Generalveers Backout

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Tolinwiz ( 106 )
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Generalveers Backout

Post by Tolinwiz »

Agree to a trade with him on Aug 31st (technically before that, but we'll go by the PMs last response when he said he'd be shipping). He's been on B-town many times since, read all the PMs sent to him, has made a few new posts in the trading forums, yet refuses to answer any of my PMs.

Here is the PM log.



Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:15 pm
by generalveers
i ahve 30 abre and 20 with hw/s Tomb King warriors (bare)
i have 21 Tomb Guard
i have 1 Tomb Scorp

im looking for 50% off retail





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:53 pm
by Tolinwiz
If you're not after any trades, figure up a price for me on the skellies.




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:01 pm
by generalveers
which sicaris model is it? im looking for $50 for the skellies + sipping(normally $10)



Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:26 pm
by Tolinwiz
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod1530008

That's the sicc model.

Lemme know what you think.




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:29 pm
by generalveers
ok nvm thought it was someone else. so what do you thik $50+10 for shipping for 50
skellies




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:31 pm
by Tolinwiz
Hrmm, not sure, I saw you are after VC models, I have tons of ghouls and skeletons, characters, etc


Manfred (bare)
Necro With Skull (black primed)
Nechrach on foot (black primed)
31 skeletons (5 painted)
40 Ghouls (20 painted)
22 Zombies (painted)





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:37 pm
by generalveers
ive really accumulated all the VC stuff i need atm pics of the ghouls or skellies if you have them handy would be cool. lowest all go price wise is $50($40 for skellies and 410 shipping)




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:38 pm
by Tolinwiz
I can get you pics of the ghouls in the next 30-1hr or so. Do you have any interest in them?




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:42 pm
by generalveers
ok cool still not sure tho if ill tarde them id prefer to sell them atm as i have a ton of vc stuff atm and really want some $$$ for BFG and my CSM.




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:43 pm
by Tolinwiz
Well, honestly, I probably won't buy them, I have way too much crap to trade right now to be dropping any cash.

Partial list of what I've gotten through this weekend. If you see anything you'd like to trade for, let me know.

12 OOP plastic Orcs with bows (2 or 3 Painted) $15
15 Plastic orc boys (Some 5th ed plastic 2h) Unpainted $8
40 orcs various stages of painting $55

3 OOP metal fanatics $15
5 Other fanatics (Not sure on edition) $20

16 Orc Boar Boyz (Not the new ones) $65

5 Savage Orc Boyz (New edition) $20
26 OOP Savage Orc Boyz $100
2 stone trolls $25
1 Samurai Orc $9

Mounted Orc Shaman on boar $12

1 Goblin Doom Diver $25

Metal Goblin Shaman (looks like a bird headdress on him) $8

EMPIRE

26 Hand gunners old edition, Painted, Custom pilgrim hats (2 unpainted)

11 spears

10 Militia new ed.

2 cannons with crew, painted
1 hellcannon with crew, painted

2 empire wizads, painted
1 warrior priest, painted

1 plastic standard bearer

9 Knights painted (one rider unpainted)
6 pistoliers (5 painted, one missing a gun, have sprue with bits for replacements)

One old edition metal steam tank painted.

Balthasar Gelt


HIGH ELVES

25 4th ed archers
11 4th Ed Spearmen
7 Phoenix guard various stages of painting
10 swordmasters
8 shadowguard
2 wizards metal
1 Bolt Thrower

Vampire Counts:
22 zombies
Manfred
Necro With Skull
Nechrach on foot
31 skeletons (5 painted)
40 Ghouls (20 painted)
22 Zombies (painted)





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:46 pm
by generalveers
well get me some pics and perhaps we can work something out




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 24, 2010 9:56 pm
by Tolinwiz
will do, heading out for 20 or so, and I"ll shoot you the pics




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:45 pm
by Tolinwiz
10 or so of these: http://img689.imageshack.us/i/img0380pn.jpg/ (rest or bare/primed black)
20 of these : http://img801.imageshack.us/i/img0381ou.jpg/ (20 of the black as well)

Lemme know what you think.






Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:49 pm
by generalveers
i am actually. could i get a pic of the skellies along with manfred and the necrarch




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:56 pm
by Tolinwiz
http://img827.imageshack.us/i/img0385r.jpg/

http://img375.imageshack.us/i/img0386xs.jpg/

http://img841.imageshack.us/i/img0387.jpg/

http://img340.imageshack.us/i/img0388tz.jpg/

Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal




Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:06 am
by Tolinwiz
Anything ya like?




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:11 am
by generalveers
ill have to check with my gf as thats who im getting them for ill get back to you in a few days if thats ok




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:13 am
by Tolinwiz
Sure thing mate.




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:18 am
by generalveers
however thi stuff below personally intrests me

10 Hand gunners old edition, Painted, Custom pilgrim hats (2 unpainted)(ics)

11 spears(what ed?)

10 Militia new ed.

2 cannons with crew, painted

2 empire wizads, painted(what ed?+pics also if plastic does this include the bitz)

1 warrior priest, painted(what ed?+pics)

9 Knights painted (pics plz)
6 pistoliers (pics plz)




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:38 am
by Tolinwiz
Everything is newest ed except for the spears which are like...5th ed?

The wizards don't have the extra bits.

If you want to work out a larger trade, I'm interested in basically everything you have.





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:57 am
by generalveers
which warrior priest is it? i may alos be interested in those ghouls and zombies




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:06 am
by Tolinwiz
Hrmm, I think it may be an older edition. I know I have a couple other WP models around as well, I believe the two one hand weapons one.

Figure up a trade you'd like for all the skeletons+tomb guard if you'd like, and we can negotiate from there.

Thanks,
Chad





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:07 am
by Tolinwiz
P.s. I have a few dreads if you're interseted as well.




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:12 am
by generalveers
orly what kindo dreads? any other SM stuff? if you could get pics of the WP that ould help alot




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:18 am
by Tolinwiz
1 ironclad, a couple vens (I think I'll have to double check).

I have basically all the character models for SM as well.





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:30 am
by generalveers
current ven or the metal one? does that include BA and SW characters? do you have any BA? and whne you say characters do you mean named ones only? neway as far as charactes o im terested in

space marine chapter masters
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod1060070

Calagar and friends
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod1050236

Cassius
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod1570031

Tigurius
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod1060113

Sicarius
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod1530008

Telion
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod1500002

Chonus
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod1530007

The Sanguinor
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod550014a

Gabrial seth
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod550013a

Dante
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catal ... rod1100005


I also have more Tk stuff. in total i have

50 skeletons
21 TG
2 carrion
1 TS
6 chariots
Mounted and nmounted liche
Tomb king
4 cav




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:34 am
by Tolinwiz
I have the sic model, and the vens are new plastics.

I may also have the Calgar model, I'll have to double check.

I'd really only be after the skellies (top priority)
lich priest on foot (med priority)
TG (low priority)

Let me know what you're after.




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:36 am
by generalveers
how many vens did you say you had? id be interested in sic,calagar if you had him,some ghouls and zombies and a ven(providing its nib or nos)





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:35 pm
by Tolinwiz
The ven is assembled, though I should have all the spare bits, I run a painting service, so it's been cleaned thoroughly. It is based lightly in hawk turqouise, though you can simply prime over if you're interested.

I'll check on Calgar and assuming the dread is ok for you, we can hopefully get something worked out.

Thanks,
Chad





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:54 pm
by Tolinwiz
Ok, I have the sic model, but he has a metal ultramarines backpack.

I also have tygarius, but he doesn't have his back banner.

I have extra SM banners I can throw in if you like.


Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal




Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:58 pm
by generalveers
ok cool ne luck on calagar? id be interested in in the characters and any dreads and sm/ba stuff you got aswell as some ghouls and zombos





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 3:28 pm
by Tolinwiz
Ok, so you have:

50 Skeletons (bare)
21 Tomb Guard
Liche Priest on foot

How about:

Siccarius
Tygarius
One Ven Dread
40 ghouls (bare or painted your choice)
20 zombies (zombies are a mix of HE bodies with zombie heads/arms, and regular zombies).

Lemme know what you think.





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 4:18 pm
by Tolinwiz
What ya think?




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:03 pm
by generalveers
sounds good to me




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:23 pm
by Tolinwiz
You can ship to me at

Chad Clay
3435 Eddie Rd
Winnebago IL 61088

I'll get yours out to the P.O. the day I receive the TK models.

(I just wanted to make sure again that all the skeletons are bare, yeah? The metal TG I'm not worried about as I can strip them if necessary) ((P.p.s. if you get any Ushabti, let me know)





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:26 pm
by generalveers
20 are assembled and painted the same way as the armybook. if you end up not wanting them then you can drop the zombos





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:40 pm
by Tolinwiz
Yeah, don't need the painted ones.

So, adjusted:

30 bare skeletons
21 Tomb Guard
Priest on foot

for:

Siccarius (metal backpack)
Tygarius (no standard)
One Ven Dread
40 ghouls




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:46 pm
by generalveers
indeed




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:48 pm
by Tolinwiz
Okay doke, just give me a heads up when everything is shipped.

Thanks mate.




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:54 pm
by generalveers
will do




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:26 pm
by generalveers
hey would you be able to switch tigirius with vlad?





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:36 pm
by generalveers
alos is the iron clad nib? im interested in its claw arms would you be able to throw that arm in? if not maybe teh whole dread if yeah i have some chariots on sprue if ur interested




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:29 pm
by Tolinwiz
I can swap the vlad for tig. As to the ironclad, it's not NIB, it's built and basecoated like the ven. I don't have an extra arm unfortunately.

I will switch out the vlad for tig in the box now. Did you get the TK sent out?

(p.s. I'm not really after chariots atm.)





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:54 am
by generalveers
ok cool thanx. no ill be doing that monday




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Mon Aug 30, 2010 2:28 pm
by generalveers
outta curiosity how much would yu sell vlad and the ghouls for? just wondering.also would you take teh skeletons and teh lich for vlad and teh ghouls? my Gf no longer wants the SM stuff so i was wondering if i could just get that VC stuff instead?

also ill be shiping out friday cu zi have like 4 other things to ship aswell





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:58 pm
by Tolinwiz
I can do 20 skeletons, 20 ghouls, Vlad, and the zombies if you like. (I would like to specify that I'm not backing out of our initial agreed upon trade.)

I'm not interested in selling the VC, only trading for TK.

If the VC trade is fine with you, I will consider it a changed deal, if not, I'll just assume the initial deal is still the planned deal we agreed upon last week.






Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 31, 2010 12:02 am
by Tolinwiz
Just to note: I'm more then happy to work out a trade, it's just the changes and push backs have my head spinning as to what you actually want :).

Put together a trade that you want to do and I'll look at it.

I'm thinking 20 skeletons, 20 ghouls, Vlad, and 20 zombies seems fair to me.

Let me know what you think.




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 31, 2010 6:34 am
by generalveers
yeah that sounds good to me. my skeletons for vlad 20 ghouls and 20 zombies. are all zombies converted or are there some that are just normal zombos





Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 31, 2010 7:35 am
by Tolinwiz
There are a few normal zombies mixed in as well.

So final trade:

20 Skeletons (black or painted your choice)

20 Ghouls (black or painted your choice)

20 Zombies (mostly painted)

For:

30 Skeletons (bare)

21 Tomb guard

Liche priest on foot.

If this looks good, it works for me, feel free to continue shipping on Friday.






Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 31, 2010 5:37 pm
by generalveers
can you throw vlad in aswell? as for all else ill take black. zombies w.e is not converted if the less painted the better




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:30 pm
by Tolinwiz
I can throw in Vlad, no problem.

So this stuff will be out on Friday?






Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Tue Aug 31, 2010 10:46 pm
by generalveers
indeed it shall




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:39 pm
by Tolinwiz
Get em out today?




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:47 am
by Tolinwiz
Sent a mass of messages last night, not sure if I checked in with you. Get the TK stuff sent out?




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:17 pm
by Tolinwiz
Hey bud see you got the last one as well not a big deal if you didn't get it out I'm just trying to.schedule.my out going mail for.next .week anyhow lemme know




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:53 pm
by Tolinwiz
Haven't heard back from you, status of the shipment?




Re: W: Tomb Kings H: Eldar, SM, HE, O&G, Paypal

Sent: Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:48 am
by Tolinwiz
I'll just assume if you read this message and don't reply that you're backing out of the trade.

I'll be posting this in the deadbeats-backouts thread tomorrow evening as I've heard nothing from you in nearly a week, and it appears you're reading all of my PMs.
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Re: Generalveers Backout

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Looks good. I sent him a PM informing him of the backout. Perhaps he will respond.
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Re: Generalveers Backout

Post by generalveers »

hey sorry dude life got in the way sorry times are tight atm. you may have seen me posting here ad there but that was my older bro not me. sorry i wont be able to do this trade until life gets back on track deepest appologize
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Re: Generalveers Backout

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generalveers wrote:hey sorry dude life got in the way sorry times are tight atm. you may have seen me posting here ad there but that was my older bro not me. sorry i wont be able to do this trade until life gets back on track deepest appologize
I think its against the rules to "share" accounts- for reason exactly like this. You are admitting its a back-out, so you could also possibly take a negative for this.
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Re: Generalveers Backout

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starslayer wrote:
generalveers wrote:hey sorry dude life got in the way sorry times are tight atm. you may have seen me posting here ad there but that was my older bro not me. sorry i wont be able to do this trade until life gets back on track deepest appologize
I think its against the rules to "share" accounts- for reason exactly like this. You are admitting its a back-out, so you could also possibly take a negative for this.
VERY against the rules.
It's being handled.
Lower rating? You ship first.

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I think what this situation needs is some imagination.

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