bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
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Re: bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
by Forsaken Poptart » Fri Jan 22, 2010 12:36 pm
Paypal is (more than likely) not going to issue a refund, though, because you listed the transaction as a "gift". Still worth a call, of course, but I wouldn't expect much to come of it.
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Re: bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
by Paintbrushturkey » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:28 pm
okay in the intests of damage contol his name is chad benesh, i'll try to recove my money through paypal, seeing as he has dropped of the face of the earth and doesn't seem very likely to respond here....
When dealing with me the following applies:
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
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Re: bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
by Paintbrushturkey » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:38 am
paypal is makeing things very difficult as the payment was send as a gift.... i have little hope of resolving this....
When dealing with me the following applies:
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
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Re: bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
by Stanislav » Fri Jan 29, 2010 2:28 pm
You're right.
Gift Definition: something acquired without compensation
Kind of hard to justify a situation when you claim something as a gift. Since they don't charge the typical paypal fees, they consider it a pretty cut-and-dry case. Nasty lesson to learn...
Gift Definition: something acquired without compensation
Kind of hard to justify a situation when you claim something as a gift. Since they don't charge the typical paypal fees, they consider it a pretty cut-and-dry case. Nasty lesson to learn...
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Re: bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
by Paintbrushturkey » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:07 pm
yeah well it's the last time i will send a payment as a gift up front...... either upond reciept or as a normal payment straight away...
When dealing with me the following applies:
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
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Re: bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
by Paintbrushturkey » Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:00 am
okay just got an e-mail form paypal telling me they would allow me to ope a dispute... goes t to show that fraudsters are always caught... just remains to see if they get away with it....
When dealing with me the following applies:
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
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Re: bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
by MagickalMemories » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:55 pm
Good news for that! Good luck on the claim.
So, how did you manage to get them to let you file a claim, considering the "gift" nature of the payment? Did you claim ignorance? Promise to never do it again? Something else?
Thanks.
Eric
So, how did you manage to get them to let you file a claim, considering the "gift" nature of the payment? Did you claim ignorance? Promise to never do it again? Something else?
Thanks.
Eric
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Re: bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
by Paintbrushturkey » Tue Feb 02, 2010 7:07 pm
in my use i wrote something like:
hey mate here is the payment for eschelius and the bogey.
seeing as it was a PAYMENT they said they will open the dispute manually for me as it cannot be opened via the regular system as it still is recorded as a gif....
hey mate here is the payment for eschelius and the bogey.
seeing as it was a PAYMENT they said they will open the dispute manually for me as it cannot be opened via the regular system as it still is recorded as a gif....
When dealing with me the following applies:
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
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Re: bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
by Paintbrushturkey » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:27 am
okay paypal closed the claim in his favour not to sure why though.... looks like he got away this time....
When dealing with me the following applies:
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
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Re: bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
by JohnHwangBT » Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:33 pm
Because you sent as GIFT.
If you can dispute & chargeback thru your CC / bank, that should get your money back, but PayPal will get mad...
If you sent via PayPal balance, you're screwed.
If you can dispute & chargeback thru your CC / bank, that should get your money back, but PayPal will get mad...
If you sent via PayPal balance, you're screwed.
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Re: bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
by Paintbrushturkey » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:22 am
was an echeque, so i'm screwed.... i'd have prefered to just have the bogey replaced / refnded, but that doesn't work without chad's cooperation.
i think this will not be resolved, so i guess the negaive i gave him, whilst a bit to speedy was evertheless a good judging of chad's character....
i think this will not be resolved, so i guess the negaive i gave him, whilst a bit to speedy was evertheless a good judging of chad's character....
When dealing with me the following applies:
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
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Re: bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
by blackspade » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:37 am
Paintbrushturkey wrote:okay paypal closed the claim in his favour not to sure why though.... looks like he got away this time....
They should at least give you an explaination as to why they ruled in his favor, rather than you having to guess.
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Re: bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
by Imaginos » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:40 am
Paypal pretty much just tells you the results - they don't give any reasoning. Frustrating, but that's the way it is.
Re: bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
by Paintbrushturkey » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:45 am
yeah well, lesson learned.....
When dealing with me the following applies:
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
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Re: bad trader chad aka luvzz2play
by Paintbrushturkey » Sat May 15, 2010 10:42 pm
Sorry for the resurrect, but just noticed that i didn't edit out addresses and e-mail addressed in the op, could a mod please take care of this, also i think this can be locked as chad has chosen to do a runner
When dealing with me the following applies:
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
NIB = new in sealed blister
mint = new never stripped may or may not be in blister
assembled = mint assembled miniature
stripped = previously painted, may have minor paint residues
primed = single layer of primer, no obsurement of details
painted = may have one or multiple layers of paint, may be badly stripped with paint residues, pictures are best here
primed and painted minis are assumed to be assembled
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