Hello,
Before the board went down I had posted this person or persons as bad traders. I no longer have every e-mail involved in the transaction, but hopefully it is acceptable to repost this persons information so future bartertown people will know to avoide this person at all costs.
I had purchased 5000.00 worth of Warhammer items from Sean tower several months ago. I only ever received 1/3 of the items I was promised. He claimed to mail out 17 boxes, but had no proof of doing so. He also claimed to file insurance forms and again would not proove that he did anything of the sort. After months and months of fighting with him, including constant phone calls and e-mails I filed a mail fraud report. Once I recieved an answer the insurance claims immediatly were resolved (its amazing how things get done when the FBI get involved) I waited another 2 months before I was refunded 3000.00 by Sean and David. The value of the lost items was over 8000.00 and they claimed that this was all the insurance they could get.
In just the last few days, I received an e-mail from another person that had dealings with Sean around roughly the same time. It turns out that he cought a large number of items from Sean and David at the same time I did. He is working on getting me his list, but I strongly believe that these are the items that I paid for. It also turns out that Sean ripped this person off for over 1000.00. I am going to encourage him to make a post as well.
Be warned that Sean goes out of his way to make his shipments seem real. He purchased shipping for 14 boxes but only ever mailed 7 of them. The tracking numbers for the remaining 7 said that the boxes were never dropped off at the post office. With the person that just contacted me, they told me Sean send them a box of newspapers and priority mail boxes.
Here is the information we have at this time
Sean P Tower
175 Brady Lane
Brandenburg KY 40108
Phone: 270 422 5162
ndh7777@yahoo.com
spt@insightbb.com
salviabay@insightbb.com
He also runs a website Salviabay.com
His e-mail accounts have been closed down aside from the nbh7777@yahoo.com account.
If I need to repost all of the E-mails again please let me know and I will post what I still have saved. It will get a bit messy because the replies list is very long.
Thank you for your time and I wish you all safe trading.
BTR: Sean Tower & David Hammon - Unresolved
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The rules are very specific on this. All bad trader reports must include proof of transactions.If I need to repost all of the E-mails again please let me know and I will post what I still have saved. It will get a bit messy because the replies list is very long.
You can always delete the reply list that most email services include. In any event, as per every other warning of this nature I deliver, you have 24 hours to post the relevant emails or your post will be deleted, etc.
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Well, if it helps substantiate anything, I do recall this one being there.
I remember you got reamed quite badly.
Eric
I remember you got reamed quite badly.
Eric
Lower rating? You ship first.
Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
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Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.
Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.
I think what this situation needs is some imagination.
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So do I. In fact, if you check my stickynote on the bad trader forum you'll see this guy listed. However, in this forum I do not bend the rules. 
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Here we go. I have found the e-mails stored in an compressed e-mail folder. I am not sure if every one is included but I will post what I have.
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Regards,
Sean
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PayPalHello -
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auctions tonight and will ship as soon as your payment clears.
Regards,
Sean
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PayPalAbsolutely. I would think the payment will clear no later than =
Tuesday, but I'll let you know as soon as it does and then send you the =
tracking numbers. If it clears before 10 am on Mon or Tues, I should be =
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Thank you again!
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PayPalAbsolutely. I would think the payment will clear no later than =
Tuesday, but I'll let you know as soon as it does and then send you the =
tracking numbers. If it clears before 10 am on Mon or Tues, I should be =
able to get it out the same day. If its after noon or so I'll have to =
ship the next day because of my work schedule.
Thank you again!
Regards,
Sean
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PayPalNo, It has not cleared yet. It is scheduled to clear at 5:00pm =
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PayPalNo, It has not cleared yet. It is scheduled to clear at 5:00pm =
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Sean
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PayPalAndrew-
I won't be home 'til 11pm EST tonight. According to PayPal, it should =
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I'll get it packaged up tomorrow and will get it to the Post Office no =
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PayPalAndrew-
I won't be home 'til 11pm EST tonight. According to PayPal, it should =
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I'll get it packaged up tomorrow and will get it to the Post Office no =
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Regards,
Sean
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Subject: Re: Notification of a Pending eCheck Payment
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PayPalHi, Andrew -
Its all packed and ready. The labels will be processed tomorrow and all =
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Sean
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Subject: Re: Notification of a Pending eCheck Payment
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PayPalHi, Andrew -
Its all packed and ready. The labels will be processed tomorrow and all =
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tomorrow.
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Sean
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Subject: Re: Shipment Notice: A package has been shipped to you
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 20:51:43 -0400
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15 have shipped. There will be 17 or 18 total depending on the sizes of =
box I find tonight.
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Subject: Re: Shipment Notice: A package has been shipped to you
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15 have shipped. There will be 17 or 18 total depending on the sizes of =
box I find tonight.
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Subject: Re: Shipment Notice: A package has been shipped to you
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I got the first 7 monday. Still awaiting the rest
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I got the first 7 monday. Still awaiting the rest
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Subject: Re: Shipment Notice: A package has been shipped to you
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I'll check on the tomorrow. How many have you received as of today?
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I'll check on the tomorrow. How many have you received as of today?
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Subject: Re: Notification of a Pending eCheck Payment
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PayPalHi, Andrew -
I can definitely appreciate your concern. I spoke with the PO yesterday. =
She's supposed to know something today by early afternoon and I'll email =
you immediately after I hear from her. I'm sure its just some kind of =
Postal delay. I've only had two packages lost and both were to =
Singapore. I'll let you know as soon as I hear. Worst case scenario, and =
a package or packages are lost - they were all insured through =
stamps.com. Fireman's Fund is the carrier and they process claims within =
ten days. In the mean time, if something shows up this morning, PLMK =
right away.
Regards,
Sean
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PayPalHi, Andrew -
I can definitely appreciate your concern. I spoke with the PO yesterday. =
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Regards,
Sean
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Subject: Re: Notification of a Pending eCheck Payment
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:53:00 -0400
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PayPalThe PO is checking into it. They said it can take as much as two =
weeks but I think they are placating me. I'll know more tomorrow.
Sean
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From: "spt234" <spt@insightbb.com>
To: "Andrew" <ChaosOrc@verizon.net>
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Subject: Re: Notification of a Pending eCheck Payment
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 18:53:00 -0400
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PayPalThe PO is checking into it. They said it can take as much as two =
weeks but I think they are placating me. I'll know more tomorrow.
Sean
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From: "Andrew" <ChaosOrc@verizon.net>
To: "spt234" <spt@insightbb.com>
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Subject: Re: Notification of a Pending eCheck Payment
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:45:11 -0700
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PayPalAccording to the tracking numbers the packages havent gone =
anywhere
----- Original Message -----=20
From: spt234=20
To: Andrew=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Notification of a Pending eCheck Payment
The PO is checking into it. They said it can take as much as two weeks =
but I think they are placating me. I'll know more tomorrow.
Sean
From: "Andrew" <ChaosOrc@verizon.net>
To: "spt234" <spt@insightbb.com>
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Subject: Re: Notification of a Pending eCheck Payment
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 19:45:11 -0700
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PayPalAccording to the tracking numbers the packages havent gone =
anywhere
----- Original Message -----=20
From: spt234=20
To: Andrew=20
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Notification of a Pending eCheck Payment
The PO is checking into it. They said it can take as much as two weeks =
but I think they are placating me. I'll know more tomorrow.
Sean