BTR aristurtle - C. Edwards

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Eedge ( 12 )
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BTR aristurtle - C. Edwards

Post by Eedge » Mon Oct 13, 2014 10:48 pm

On August 28th I was messaged by aristurtle about trading a couple of army books of mine for an army book and a model of his. We agreed upon a trade and on September 2nd I sent my half of the agreement. On September 15th I sent a message asking if the books had arrived as I had not heard from aristurtle. I sent another message on the 18th, still nothing. On the 21st of September I sent a new message to aristurtle under the heading Filing a Complaint letting him know that I was tired of waiting for a response. This brought an almost immediate response on his part saying he had completely forgot about the trade and that he had received the books. He said he would mail me my half of the agreement the next day. I asked if they were sent on the 22nd. He didn't reply until the 24th that they were and that he would send me the confirmation code later that day. September 30th was the last time I received a message from aristurtle and I still have not received the book and model I was promised.




Re: W: Demon Army Book and Codex
Sent: Thu Aug 28, 2014 11:40 am
From: aristurtle(18)
To: Eedge

hey there. i have the 40k codex- it's more or less brand new. i also have a daemon prince that's assembled and primed black (did i understand you correctly and that you said you were looking for daemon models?) if interested, i'd like to trade you for both the current skaven and ogre kingdoms books. let me know, thanks!

Subject: W: Demon Army Book and Codex

Eedge wrote:
I'm looking to get both the Warhammer and 40k books for Demons of Chaos. I would like to trade book for book. I currently have every 8th edition Fantasy book except Wood Elves and almost all 40k books.

I'm also interested in doing an army swap. I have High Elves and would be interested in Wood Elves or Bretonnians. Would be willing to trade in your favor if the army is big enough.

I'm also on the lookout for Tomb Kings and Demons.

Thanks.

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Re: W: Demon Army Book and Codex
Sent: Thu Aug 28, 2014 8:15 pm
by Eedge

Sounds good to me. Let me make sure I have the current Skaven book first though.

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Re: W: Demon Army Book and Codex
Sent: Thu Aug 28, 2014 9:15 pm
by aristurtle

Awesome, let me know! If not, toss in $20 and the prince is yours (about 50%)

He's primed black, assembled well with wings.

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Re: W: Demon Army Book and Codex
Sent: Sat Aug 30, 2014 3:54 pm
by Eedge

Ok, l finally found both books. I'm ready to trade when you are. However, you are aware that Skaven only have a 7th edition paperback book, right?

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Re: W: Demon Army Book and Codex
Sent: Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:35 pm
by aristurtle

Yeah, I'm aware. I figure the hardbacks cancel each other out, and the daemon prince has about the same value as the skaven book since it's already assembled, primed, etc... plus I don't have any spare bits for it. Looks nice though!

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Re: W: Demon Army Book and Codex
Sent: Sat Aug 30, 2014 4:57 pm
by Eedge

Sounds good. My address is

THIS MESSAGE EDITED TO HIDE MY INFORMATION

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Re: W: Demon Army Book and Codex
Sent: Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:02 pm
by aristurtle

Kk.

C. Edwards
7004 natchitoches way
Bakersfield ca
93309

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Re: W: Demon Army Book and Codex
Sent: Sat Aug 30, 2014 6:12 pm
by Eedge

It may have to wait till Tuesday because of the holiday.

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Re: W: Demon Army Book and Codex
Sent: Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:16 pm
by Eedge

Books are on their way. Tracking number is

9114901230803491209822

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Re: W: Demon Army Book and Codex
Sent: Mon Sep 15, 2014 12:38 pm
by Eedge

I haven't heard from you about the book or anything. Just wondering if my stuff arrived?

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Re: W: Demon Army Book and Codex
Sent: Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:33 pm
by Eedge

I'm starting to become concerned about our trade. I know you got the books on the 8th. That was 10 days ago and I haven't heard anything. Please let me know what is going on.

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THIS IS THE END OF THE THAT MESSAGE CHAIN. THE FOLLOWING IS WHEN I INFORMED HIM THAT I WOULD BE FILING A COMPLAINT.

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Filing a complaint
Sent: Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:51 pm
by Eedge

At this point I'm tired of waiting on a reply. I will be contacting the admins.

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Re: Filing a complaint
Sent: Sun Sep 21, 2014 3:50 pm
by aristurtle

Whoa there- sorry about that! It was something that totally slipped my mind and I hadn't seen the messages. I can totally understand the frustration. I can send the daemon and codex out tomorrow, or I can return your books if you want. Let me know- sorry about that it was a complete screw up on my part, a lot of personal issues on this end, but it's no excuse. Still, let me know.

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Re: Filing a complaint
Sent: Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:14 pm
by Eedge

Please send your half of the original agreement.

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Re: Filing a complaint
Sent: Sun Sep 21, 2014 4:23 pm
by aristurtle

Will do. It was an honest mix up, but I understand the frustration. I'll have it out for you tomorrow!

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Re: Filing a complaint
Sent: Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:31 pm
by Eedge

Were the book and model sent today?

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Re: Filing a complaint
Sent: Wed Sep 24, 2014 8:39 am
by aristurtle

hey there! i sent it off yesterday. i have the DC at home and i'm at work, i'll send it your way when i get home and can check it. book and daemon prince should be there no later than friday.

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Re: Filing a complaint
Sent: Wed Sep 24, 2014 2:52 pm
by Eedge

I appreciate it.

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Re: Filing a complaint
Sent: Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:25 am
by aristurtle

hey, i havent heard from you. did everything arrive in good order?

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Re: Filing a complaint
Sent: Tue Sep 30, 2014 1:39 pm
by Eedge

I haven't received anything and you never sent me a confirmation number.

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Re: Filing a complaint
Sent: Sat Oct 11, 2014 10:41 am
by Eedge

I still have not received either the items you agreed to send or even a message containing a confirmation number. I am done dealing with this and my patience has worn out. You have until Monday to explain yourself during which time I will be compiling the information needed to submit a Bad Trader Report. This has been absolutely ridiculous.

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This message chain contains all the pertinent information like the tracking number that I sent as well as confirmation that aristurtle did in fact receive what I sent. I haven't pursued any legal ramifications as I believe the value of the items in question wouldn't warrant much. I do however want to warn everyone to not trade with him in the future.

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Re: BTR aristurtle - C. Edwards

Post by MagickalMemories » Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:29 am

I'll do some research.
In the mean time, has he read all of your messages?

Eric
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I think what this situation needs is some imagination.

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Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.

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Re: BTR aristurtle - C. Edwards

Post by MagickalMemories » Tue Oct 14, 2014 2:35 am

This looks bad.
The address is associated with a realty company and is shown to currently have no information on residents.
Granted, this COULD just mean that the information isn't updated yet.

Eric
Lower rating? You ship first.

Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.


I think what this situation needs is some imagination.

"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell

Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.

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Re: BTR aristurtle - C. Edwards

Post by Eedge » Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:40 am

I'm not sure how to check if he's read all my messages, but I know he's on the site frequently.

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Re: BTR aristurtle - C. Edwards

Post by 3eland » Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:53 am

If they are in your Sent folder he has read them. If they are in your Outbox folder, he has yet to read them.
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Re: BTR aristurtle - C. Edwards

Post by Eedge » Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:06 am

Ah, then he has read them all except for the last one.

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Re: BTR aristurtle - C. Edwards

Post by vurumai » Fri Oct 24, 2014 12:34 am

Why did you edit the post to hide your information but not his?


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Re: BTR aristurtle - C. Edwards

Post by MagickalMemories » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:43 am

vurumai wrote:Why did you edit the post to hide your information but not his?


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Because he read the rules and guidelines.

Eric
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To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.


I think what this situation needs is some imagination.

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Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.

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Re: BTR aristurtle - C. Edwards

Post by vurumai » Fri Oct 24, 2014 2:50 am

The "you " in my comment was not referring to you, Eric, but thank you for the information.
1. Every PM deserves a timely response.
2. Everyone has a busy life but anyone should be able to respond to a PM within 24 hours.
3. Lowest rating ships or pays first unless specifically otherwise arranged.
4. Lowest rating leaves Reference first.
5. No international deals unless agreed to explicitly in PM.
6. Everything ships with tracking. Items of sufficient value should be insured by the shipper.

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Re: BTR aristurtle - C. Edwards

Post by MagickalMemories » Fri Oct 24, 2014 3:13 am

Just because you weren't asking me doesn't mean I don't know the answer. : )
You're welcome.

@ everyone:
Let's keep this thread to posts specific to this BTR from here on out, please. Any inquiries about why things were done certain ways or anything not specifically aiding in the resolution of the BTR (like new info or occurences, etc.) should be done via PM with the applicable person(s).
Thanks.

Eric
Lower rating? You ship first.

Give me a sense of humor Lord. Give me the grace to see a joke.
To get some humor out of life and pass it on to other folk.


I think what this situation needs is some imagination.

"...I'm a nerd, and I'm here tonight to stand up for the rights of other nerds.” – Gilbert Lowell

Want my help with a BTR or backout? All messages sent/posted should be in CHRONOLOGICAL order. Otherwise, I just won't read it.

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